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Dyson-Schwinger Equations approach to pseudoscalar poles contribution to HLbL piece of a m Pablo Roig work done in collaboration with Adnan Bashir & Khpani Raya ( to appear soon ) p 0 TFF DSE input from h c/b TFF 2 nd Plenary Workshop of


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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative 18-22 June 2018, Helmholtz-Institut Mainz, Germany work done in collaboration with Adnan Bashir & Khépani Raya Pablo Roig

Dyson-Schwinger Equations approach to pseudoscalar poles contribution to HLbL piece of am

(to appear soon) DSE input from p0 TFF hc/b TFF

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  • K. Raya, L. Chang, A. Bashir, J. J. Cobos-Martínez, L. X. Gutiérrez-Guerrero, C. D. Roberts, P. C. Tandy Phys.Rev. D93 (2016) no.7, 074017

CELLO data CLEO data BaBar data Belle data Lepage, Brodsky ‘80 Rainbow-ladder truncation + ERBL evolution of the p Bethe-Salpeter amplitude Without ERBL evolution 2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF from Dyson-Schwinger equations

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  • K. Raya, L. Chang, A. Bashir, J. J. Cobos-Martínez, L. X. Gutiérrez-Guerrero, C. D. Roberts, P. C. Tandy Phys.Rev. D93 (2016) no.7, 074017

2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF from Dyson-Schwinger equations

As a result of solving DSE, we end up with a numerical solution for the p0 TFF.

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  • K. Raya, L. Chang, A. Bashir, J. J. Cobos-Martínez, L. X. Gutiérrez-Guerrero, C. D. Roberts, P. C. Tandy Phys.Rev. D93 (2016) no.7, 074017

2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

HLbL

p0 TFF from Dyson-Schwinger equations

As a result of solving DSE, we end up with a numerical solution for the p0 TFF. But how can we parametrize it analytically to compute the p0 pole contribution to am?

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  • K. Raya, L. Chang, A. Bashir, J. J. Cobos-Martínez, L. X. Gutiérrez-Guerrero, C. D. Roberts, P. C. Tandy Phys.Rev. D93 (2016) no.7, 074017

2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

HLbL

p0 TFF from Dyson-Schwinger equations

As a result of solving DSE, we end up with a numerical solution for the p0 TFF. But how can we parametrize it analytically to compute the p0 pole contribution to am? We first tried using LMD+V (Knecht & Nyffeler’02, Jegerlehner & Nyffeler’09) but it was not good enough to fit the data

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  • K. Raya, L. Chang, A. Bashir, J. J. Cobos-Martínez, L. X. Gutiérrez-Guerrero, C. D. Roberts, P. C. Tandy Phys.Rev. D93 (2016) no.7, 074017

2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

HLbL

p0 TFF from Dyson-Schwinger equations

As a result of solving DSE, we end up with a numerical solution for the p0 TFF. But how can we parametrize it analytically to compute the p0 pole contribution to am? We first tried using LMD+V (Knecht & Nyffeler’02, Jegerlehner & Nyffeler’09) but it was not good enough to fit the data We decided to include an additional multiplet of resonances (LMD+V+V’) and it worked.

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig)

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  • K. Raya, L. Chang, A. Bashir, J. J. Cobos-Martínez, L. X. Gutiérrez-Guerrero, C. D. Roberts, P. C. Tandy Phys.Rev. D93 (2016) no.7, 074017

2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

HLbL

p0 TFF from Dyson-Schwinger equations

As a result of solving DSE, we end up with a numerical solution for the p0 TFF. But how can we parametrize it analytically to compute the p0 pole contribution to am? We first tried using LMD+V (Knecht & Nyffeler’02, Jegerlehner & Nyffeler’09) but it was not good enough to fit the data We decided to include an additional multiplet of resonances (LMD+V+V’) and it worked. It also gave us a chance to improve the BL limit when the non-asymptotic photon is not real.

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig)

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  • K. Raya, L. Chang, A. Bashir, J. J. Cobos-Martínez, L. X. Gutiérrez-Guerrero, C. D. Roberts, P. C. Tandy Phys.Rev. D93 (2016) no.7, 074017

2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

HLbL

p0 TFF from Dyson-Schwinger equations

As a result of solving DSE, we end up with a numerical solution for the p0 TFF. But how can we parametrize it analytically to compute the p0 pole contribution to am? We first tried using LMD+V (Knecht & Nyffeler’02, Jegerlehner & Nyffeler’09) but it was not good enough to fit the data We decided to include an additional multiplet of resonances (LMD+V+V’) and it worked. It also gave us a chance to improve the BL limit when the non-asymptotic photon is not real. LMD+V+V’ can be of interest for lattice Colls. in order to parametrize their data.

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig)

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) (LMD+V corresponds to N=2)

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) (LMD+V corresponds to N=2) It corresponds to N=3, LMD+V+V’

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) (LMD+V corresponds to N=2) It corresponds to N=3, LMD+V+V’ First row corresponds to LMD+V

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) (LMD+V corresponds to N=2) It corresponds to N=3, LMD+V+V’ First row corresponds to LMD+V It can be rewritten as (Knecht & Nyffeler’02)

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) (to fulfil QCD asymptotics)

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) ABJ anomaly:

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) ABJ anomaly: Fully asymmetric BL: Allows for (seeming) small violations due to data non being asymptotic

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) ABJ anomaly: Fully asymmetric BL: Symmetric asymptotic limit (Novikov et. al.): Allows for (seeming) small violations due to data non being asymptotic

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) ABJ anomaly: Fully asymmetric BL: Symmetric asymptotic limit (Novikov et. al.): If subleading corrections are taken into account: Allows for (seeming) small violations due to data non being asymptotic We obtain a larger (and opposite in sign) value

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) ABJ anomaly: Fully asymmetric BL: Symmetric asymptotic limit (Novikov et. al.):

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

HLbL

p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) ABJ anomaly: Fully asymmetric BL: Symmetric asymptotic limit (Novikov et. al.): The BL limit must not change when the non-asymptotic photon is virtual:

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

HLbL

p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) ABJ anomaly: Fully asymmetric BL: Symmetric asymptotic limit (Novikov et. al.): The BL limit must not change when the non-asymptotic photon is virtual: However, c21 ͼ [-1.1 c12 MV1

2,-0.9 c12 MV1 2] works remarkably well, since the dominant region is around Q0 2 ~ MV1 2 ~ Mr 2.

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

HLbL

p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) ABJ anomaly: Fully asymmetric BL: Symmetric asymptotic limit (Novikov et. al.): The BL limit must not change when the non-asymptotic photon is virtual: However, c21 ͼ [-1.1 c12 MV1

2,-0.9 c12 MV1 2] works remarkably well, since the dominant region is around Q0 2 ~ MV1 2 ~ Mr 2.

From the subleading terms, we get Approximately satisfied (within 9%) for Q0

2 ~ Mr 2

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

HLbL

p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) ABJ anomaly: Fully asymmetric BL: Symmetric asymptotic limit (Novikov et. al.): The BL limit must not change when the non-asymptotic photon is virtual: However, c21 ͼ [-1.1 c12 MV1

2,-0.9 c12 MV1 2] works remarkably well, since the dominant region is around Q0 2 ~ MV1 2 ~ Mr 2.

From the subleading terms, we get It is seen, a posteriori, that MV2,3 can be identified with Mr’, Mr’’ Approximately satisfied (within 9%) for Q0

2 ~ Mr 2

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) No other corrections enter P(Q1

2,Q2 2) because we are dealing with p0 pole contributions

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’, fit results

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig)

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’, fit results

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig)

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’, fit results

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig)

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’, fit results

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) Used to set

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2nd Plenary Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative DSE approach to P poles in am

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’, fit results

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) Used to set With correlations:

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’, P pole contributions to am

HLb LbL

(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig)

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p0 TFF & LMD+V+V’, P pole contributions to am

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(K. Raya, A. Bashir & P. Roig) We proceeded similarly for the hc, hb contributions (still some work needs to be done with h, h’) to obtain hc contribution is negligible until 1% precisión is reached on am

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This does not need to be the case for the h(1295), h(1405), h(1475),…

(We used a slight variation of LMD for them)

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Update on ‘Pseudoscalar pole light-by-light contributions to the muon (g-2) in Resonance Chiral Theory’. e-Print: arXiv: 1803.08099 [hep-ph], A. Guevara, P. Roig & J. J. Sanz- Cillero, to be published in JHEP.

Individual contributions

Error due to subleading 1/Nc corrections: +0.09x10-10 Error due to falling as 1/Q4 in the doubly asymptotic limit (instead of as 1/Q2): +0.5x10-10 Systematic theory errors (overlooked before)

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BACKUP

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Some caveats on Fis Fischer, Go Goeck cke & Wil illi liams Eur.Phys.J. A47 (2011) 28; Phys.Rev. D83 (2011) 094006, Erratum: Phys.Rev. D86 (2012) 099901 & Phys.Rev. D87 (2013) no.3, 034013

First Workshop of the Muon g-2 Theory Initiative

  • A. Bashir, K. Raya & PR: DSEs for a MI estimate?
  • Their off-shell prescription is based on an axial-vector WTI which holds only for the leading

amplitude (Si-Xue Qin, Craig D. Roberts, S. M. Schmidt Phys.Lett. B733 (2014) 202-208)

  • Use of PTIRs or extrapolations?
  • Consistency with axial anomaly in the study of h/h’ TFFs?
  • Use of phenomenology to constrain dressing functions?
  • Double-counting?
  • …?