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Session 1 O_8 Fleschmann & Pons Experiment PROGRESS ON DUAL LASER EXPERIMENTS Dennis G. Letts 1 , Dennis Cravens 2 , and Peter L. Hagelstein 3 1 12015 Ladrido Lane, Austin, TX, USA 2 Ambridge University, Cloudcroft, NM 3 Massachusetts


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PROGRESS ON DUAL LASER EXPERIMENTS

Dennis G. Letts1, Dennis Cravens2, and Peter L. Hagelstein3

112015 Ladrido Lane, Austin, TX, USA 2Ambridge University, Cloudcroft, NM 3Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA, USA

We have continued our experiments using duel laser stimulation of electrochemically loaded

  • PdDx. In earlier work, we used two properly oriented and polarized tunable diode lasers which

provided stimulation at optical frequencies; interestingly, we found that the excess heat is sensitive to the beat difference frequency. Low-level thermal signals are observed to be triggered at apparent resonances when the difference frequency is 8.3, 15.3 and 20.4 THz. There seems to be a reasonable connection between beat frequencies of 8.3 and 15.3 THz and characteristic frequencies of the optical phonon spectrum in PdD, but the optical phonon spectrum in PdD does not go up to 20.4 THz. However, 20.4 THz is close to a characteristic frequency of PdH, and we believe that our experiments so far have had significant proton

  • contamination. Exploring the role of H contamination in this experiment is a goal of ongoing

experiments. In previous work, we have been limited in the frequency range over which difference frequencies can be generated. In ongoing experiments we have extended the upper limit, and are using the new set-up to see whether resonances occur at higher difference frequencies. We are also interested in questions concerning the size of the region responsible for the excess heat, as well as the dependence on laser intensity. There is some evidence to support the hypothesis that the excess heat arises from a region larger than the laser spot in our previous single laser experiments. There is also evidence that the excess heat is initiated once the laser reaches a (low) threshold intensity, but that the excess power is relatively insensitive to the laser intensity above threshold. ICCF-15

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Fleschmann & Pons Experiment

O_8

Session 1

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Progress on two-laser experiments

Peter Hagelstein, Dennis Letts, and Dennis Cravens

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Goal: to see if Pxs responds to the beat frequency

  • In previous years Letts and Cravens showed that a laser

could trigger excess heat

  • Hope was that two lasers might trigger excess heat
  • If so, then could study the dependence of excess heat on

the difference frequency

  • Possible method to see whether optical phonons involved
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N S 100 mL LIOD Magnet Pt anode coil Pd Cathode Pt recombiners Teflon lid O-ring seal Vent T1 Au anode Cathode Anode T2 Laser 1 Laser 2

Schematic of experimental set-up

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t (min)

100 200 300 400 500 600

Pin and Pout (Watts)

8.0 8.2 8.4 8.6 8.8 9.0 9.2

  • utput

input

Power balance assuming Pth = K DT, and Pin = I(V – V0)

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t (min)

200 400 600 800

Pxs (mW)

100 200 300

lasers on

Lasers stimulate excess heat Big response seen at “sweet spots”, little response at other difference frequencies

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Excess power responds to two laser stimulation:

  • p polarization required for both lasers
  • Overlap of beams required
  • Lasers at different frequencies
  • Response only at specific difference frequencies
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t (min)

200 400 600 800

Pxs (mW)

50 100 150

lasers

  • n

polarization rotated

Aligning the polarization leads to excess power

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difference frequency (THz)

5 10 15 20 25 30

Pxs (mW)

100 200 300

Summary of about 50 measurements over 2 years

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f (THz)

2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16

X K L [100] [110] [111]

Comparison with Pd phonon mode spectrum

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Conclusions

  • Excess power triggered using two lasers
  • Response depends on difference frequency
  • Sweet spots (resonances) at 8.3, 15.3 and 20.4 THz
  • 15.3 THz is close to L-point compressional optical phonon mode
  • 8.3 THz is near G-point compressional and transverse modes
  • 20.4 THz is close to PdH L-point mode
  • Computations with PdD0.75H0.25 give L-point mode at 19.7 THz
  • Results implicate optical phonons in these experiments
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Modeling the SRI loading experiments

Peter L. Hagelstein,1 Fran Tanzella2, and Mike McKubre2

1Research Laboratory of Electronics

Massachusetts Institute of Technology

2SRI International, Menlo Park, CA

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Diffusion coefficient at high loading

H/Pd

0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9 1.0

DH 10-7 cm2/sec

2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18

Fit to Baranowski data, and also other experimental data at beta phase boundary

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Our diffusion model

D(oct)/Pd(location)

0.0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1.0

DD cm2/sec

10-8 10-7 10-6

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Loading deuterium into Pd

D2O OD- D

  • M. Volmer

Electrochemical current density J loads 1 D per charge.

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Deuterium loss from PdD

D D D2 J Tafel Deuterium on the surface combines to make D2 gas. Rate depends

  • n deuterium potential and the surface blocking.
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An additional pathway?

D2O OD- D2 D J Heyrovsky If the chemical potential of deuterium is high, then the electrochemical current density J contains a part that deloads deuterium

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Explanation for loss of loading

Data of Akita et al, ICCF4 (1994) Model of Zhang et al, J Electronal. Chem. (1997). Volmer-Tafel Volmer-Tafel-Heyrovsky

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Why are the models broken?

Impossible to account for experiments at SRI, ENEA, and Energetics with this kind of model

  • Problem is with Heyrovsky reaction
  • No experimental confirmation of Heyrovsky in Pd (base)
  • Qualitative behavior of Heyrvosky inconsistent with observations

Basically, Heyrovsky acts as wall. Pick some loading that you think is Heyrovsky limited, then the resulting model will never get to higher loadings

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The problem

So, we have to dispense with Heyrovsky for Pd loading

  • Then how to account for lower loading at high J?
  • Volmer brings in H/D, one per charge of electrochemical current
  • Tafel doesn’t care about J
  • So if J increases, without Heyrovsky the loading has to increase
  • But in the experiment the loading decreases!
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Two-electron transfer reaction

Overall reaction: 2D2O + 2e- + M  2OD- + D2 + M

  • Reaction does not load or deload (but takes away from Volmer)
  • No dependence on chemical potential in PdD
  • Does not act as wall
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Propose that Li adsorbs and blocks adsorbed D

Pd Li

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Propose that Li adsorbs and blocks adsorbed D

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Propose that Li adsorbs and blocks adsorbed D

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Need model for Li adsorption

Use a modified Frumkin adsorption isotherm: and fit to data as best one can

Li 1

u f

k e e k

 

 

   

     

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Resulting electrochemical model

The resulting model seems to work pretty well

  • Fitted to best available data sets in the literature
  • No Heyrovsky wall
  • Surface lithium consistent with literature
  • Can match experimental loading curves
  • Only free parameter is cathode-dependent leak rate
  • Li plugs leaks
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J (A/cm2)

0.001 0.01 0.1 1

D/Pd

0.8 0.9 1.0

Green and Britz, 0.1M LiOD Green and Britz, 1.0 M LiOD Akita et al, 1.0 M LiOD model, 0.1 M LiOD 99% coverage with Tafel poison model, 0.1 M LiOD 99.9% coverage with Tafel poison

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Assume steady state at surface

t (hours)

20 40 60 80 100

R/R0

0.0 0.5 1.0 1.5 2.0 2.5

Current too little to maintain steady state against diffusion

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Required flux vs current density

t (hours)

20 40 60 80 100

J, flux (A/cm2)

0.00 0.05 0.10 0.15 0.20 0.25 0.30

J flux

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Updated version of model

J (A/cm2)

0.001 0.01 0.1 1

, Li

0.70 0.75 0.80 0.85 0.90 0.95 1.00

 Li 1.0M LiOD 0.1M LiOD

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Volmer current

J (A/cm2)

0.001 0.01 0.1 1

jV (A/cm2)

0.001 0.01 0.1 1

1.0M LiOD 0.1M LiOD

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Summary and conclusions

  • What started out to be a simple modeling exercise has

turned into textbook rewrite exercise

  • Diffusion not understood generally, but a few papers have

models that are qualitatively similar

  • Electrochemical reaction mechanisms not understood for Pd
  • New electrochemical loading model
  • Some modeling of SRI DoL cells (in progress)
  • Waiting for data from excess heat cells