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The Trouble with Triples: Difficulties with the triple scenario and how they might be overcome Joseph OBrien Antognini August 5, 2015 The trouble with triples... ? Kozai Thompson (2011) Katz & Dong (2012) Kushnir et al. (2013) The


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The Trouble with Triples:

Difficulties with the triple scenario and how they might be overcome

Joseph O’Brien Antognini

August 5, 2015

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The trouble with triples...

Kozai

?

Thompson (2011) Katz & Dong (2012) Kushnir et al. (2013)

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The trouble with triples...

Kozai + tidal friction

Kozai

  • scillations

quenched

Stellar evolution

e.g., Mazeh & Shaham ‘79, Wu & Murray ‘03, Fabrycky & Tremaine ‘07

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Population synthesis of triples confirms

  • ur concerns...

Hamers+ 2013 Hamers+ 2013

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Avoiding the trouble with triples

?

Scattering? Asymmetric mass loss?

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WD kick uncertainties

  • How does an adiabatic force change the orbital

inclination?

  • Are the kicks actually adiabatic?
  • Are the kicks in one direction, or is there a random

walk?

  • What, me worry?
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How much do WD kicks have to change the inclination?

R☉ RWD

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How much do WD kicks have to change the inclination?

MIEK

(Shappee & Thompson 2013)

R☉

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Scattering with Fewbody

(Fregeau et al. 2004)

  • Performed ~400 million N-body calculations

(Antognini & Thompson, 2015)

  • KS regularization

(Kustaanheimo & Steifel 1965)

  • Energy conservation tolerance of 10-3

(Portegies Zwart & Boekholt 2014; Boekholt & Portegies Zwart 2014)

  • Check for convergence in max impact parameter
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Dynamically formed triples are...

~uniform in inclination extremely compact

(Antognini+ 2015) (Antognini+ 2015)

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Scattering processes are strongly velocity dependent

(Antognini+ 2015)

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Rate estimate

pretty well known now ? ? ???

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Assumptions about N in the field

  • 1010 white dwarfs in the Galaxy

(Napiwotzki 2009)

  • 10% of WDs are in WD-WD binaries

(Holberg 2009)

  • 20% of WD-WD binaries have tertiaries

⇒ 2 x 108 WD-WD binaries with tertiaries

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Rate estimate in the field

Hopeless.

Ellipticals??

Even more hopeless.

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  • 105 open clusters in the Galaxy

(Piskunov et al. 2006)

  • The typical system is in an open cluster

with 300 members

(Porras et al. 2003)

⇒ 3 x 106 triples in open clusters Assumptions about N in open clusters

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Rate estimate for open clusters

Within a factor of ~10 Too low? Too high?

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Summary

  • Still unclear how to avoid coalescence on the main sequence
  • Scattering does not work in the field. Open clusters are

complicated.

  • WD kicks need to change the inclination by >15°

A survey for the community:

By show of hands, what fraction of SNe Ia happen in triples? None of them <<10% ~10% All of them