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Found under a Gooseberry Bush? Looking for missing births and baptisms Dr Janet Few Aim To help you find the birth or baptism of your elusive ancestors After 1837 Before 1837 Too many possibilities After 1837 1st July 1837

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Found under a Gooseberry Bush?

Looking for missing births and baptisms Dr Janet Few

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Aim

To help you find the

birth or baptism of your elusive ancestors

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After 1837 Before 1837 Too many

possibilities

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After 1837

1st July 1837

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After 1837

 Birth Certificate

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After 1837

 Birth Certificate

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After 1837

 Birth Certificate

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After 1837

 Birth Certificate

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After 1837

 Birth Certificate

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After 1837

 Birth Certificate

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After 1837

 Birth Certificate

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After 1837

 Birth Certificate

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Obtaining a Birth Certificate

 Family Possession

Free You’ve got the right one

 Another Researcher Local Register Office  Using the GRO Indexes

General Register Office Local Register Office

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Local Register Office

Need to know where and roughly when

event took place

Internet search/telephone directory for

address or ask own local register office

£10 Can ask supplementary questions Don’t give too much information GRO reference numbers are

meaningless

Will be more ‘original’

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General Register Office

 Use GRO indexes either to find

location or date so can order via local registrar OR

 To order certificate directly from

GRO www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Cheaper pdf copies for

genealogical purposes £7

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General Register Office

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

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General Register Office

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Maiden name of mother for all births

  • Find short-lived siblings
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General Register Office

Name Year Quarter of registration N.B. 6 week delay Registration district Covers several parishes Unexpected names West Derby = Liverpool Volume Page Dec Q 1852 Torrington IX 104 March Q 1853 Bideford 5b 508

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General Register Office Index

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General Register Office Index

Mother’s maiden name in index from Sept Q 1911

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Finding a Reference Number

Free BMD

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

Free Near complete High level of accuracy Are images of actual indexes Allows most flexible searching

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Free BMD

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Free BMD

Can use * (even for initial letter) or

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Free BMD

Only one initially Will automatically include 2nd names and some alternatives

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Free BMD

Useless before Sept 1911 – use sparingly

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Free BMD

Don’t use for births

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Free BMD

Registration date Remember 6 week delay

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Free BMD

One or the other

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Free BMD

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Free BMD

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Other Options for Indexes

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ Free Complete www.findmypast.co.uk  www.ancestry.co.uk  www.thegenealogist.co.uk

Subscription or pay per view Complete Indexing errors Try more than one

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Other Options for Indexes

 Several counties and

registration districts have complete free online indexes - see www.ukbmd.org.uk

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Why Can’t I find Them?

 Spelling wrong  Date wrong  Place wrong  Wrong forename  Wrong surname  Mis-indexed  Mis-registered  Not registered

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Why Can’t I find Them?

 Spelling wrong Mis-heard or mis-read? Ask others to write the spoken

surname

Try accents! Note commonly confused capitals

L S T

Use wildcards

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Why Can’t I find Them?

 Date wrong

Widen date search Use as many other sources

as possible to estimate date

  • f birth

Remember late registration

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Estimating a Birth Date

 27 when married 20th Dec 1874

Born – 21st Dec 1846-20th Dec 1847

 43 in 1891 census – 30th March

Born 31st March 1847-30th March 1848

 73 when died – 15th July 1921

Born 16th July 1847-15th July 1848

 Born 16th July 1847-20th Dec 1847 Sep Q 1847 – Mar Q 1848

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Why Can’t I find Them?

  • Place wrong
  • Check as many censuses birth places

as possible

  • Widen search
  • Try home of mother
  • Were they away from home?
  • Were they overseas?
  • GRO miscellaneous indexes for births at sea etc
  • Changing county boundaries
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Why Can’t I find Them?

 Wrong forename

Look at other sources for clues Reverse forenames Consider nicknames Polly = Mary Ann Jenny = Jane Remember Male and Female

registrations

Search with surname only

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Why Can’t I find Them?

 Wrong surname

 Look at other sources for

clues

 Consider mother’s maiden

name if known

Search without a surname

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Why Can’t I find Them?

 Mis-indexed

 Will depend on degree of

error

 You are using an index of an

index

 Try several indexes  Try local registrar

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Why Can’t I find Them?

 Mis-registered

 Will depend on degree of

error

Order from local registrar

with supplementary information

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Why Can’t I find Them?

 Not registered

 Try other sources

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Other Sources

 Family information  Census returns

The wife of the head of the household is

not necessarily the mother of his child

 Baptism  Will  Obituary  Certificate of full sibling

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Before 1837

 Registers of Baptism  May be a long time after the

birth

 No standard information until

1813

 Anglican or non-conformist?

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Baptism Registers

 Pre 1813 No standard information  1813 onwards Anglican baptisms

give date of baptism, name of child, names of parents (very rarely give mother’s maiden name), abode, father’s occupation

 Non-conformist baptisms often

more detailed

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1813-1837

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1813-1837

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1813-1837

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1813-1837

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1813-1837

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1813-1837

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Before 1813

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Dade Registers for some Northern Counties 1777-1812

 Date of Birth

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Dade Registers for some Northern Counties 1777-1812

 Position in Family

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Dade Registers for some Northern Counties 1777-1812

 Mother’s Maiden Name

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Dade Registers for some Northern Counties 1777-1812

 Parents’ Parishes of Origin

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Finding a Baptism Record

 Always

aim to have sight of the original entry be it a digital image, on film, or the actual register

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Finding a Baptism Record

 In Family Records

 In the Church  In the Local Record Office  Online

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Finding a Baptism Record

 In Family Records

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Finding a Baptism Record

 In the Church

 Rare  May Charge

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 In the Local Record Office  Be aware of what survives for

your area

 Phillimore’s Atlas and Index of Parish

Registers

 www.genuki.org.uk  Local Record Office website or catalogue

 Remember possibility of gaps in

registers

Commonwealth Gap 1645-1660

Finding a Baptism Record

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Finding a Baptism Record

  • In the Local Record Office
  • May need an appointment
  • Will

probably need to use microfilm or microfiche

  • May need online index first to

locate parish

  • May use transcripts initially
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Finding a Baptism Record

 Online

https://familysearch.org Good but not complete coverage Free but contains errors Limited access to original records  Subscription website Paid, incomplete coverage, errors

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Finding a Baptism Record

 Online

http://dustydocs.com/ Links to free websites for British parish

registers

www.genuki.org.uk Online Parish Clerks www.freereg.org.uk/ Specific County or parish sites http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/EssexAncesto

rs.aspx

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Family Search

www.familysearch.org/search/

 Less is more

 Change one element at a

time

 Beware of errors  Search for children of a

couple

 Search by batch number

http:www.genuki.org.uk/big/ FindingBatchNos.html

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Non-conformist Registers

 Local Church or Chapel  County Record Office  The National Archives  Made accessible online by

www.thegenealogist.co.uk via www.bmdregisters.co.uk

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Too Many Possibles

 Revisit other information  Look for infant deaths  Kill off later in life  Look for them marrying the

wrong person but be aware of second or bigamous marriages

 Trace all for possible link  Other sources

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I Still Can’t Find Them

 Revisit existing

information

 Try other sources

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Other Sources

 https://discovery.nationalarchives.

gov.uk

 Wills  Obituaries  Memorial inscriptions  Service records  Leases  Court records  Apprenticeship indentures

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I Still Can’t Find Them

Hire an expert

They may come to the same

conclusions as you

 Trace another line

while you wait for new developments

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Thank You

You have been listening to The History Interpreter www.historyinterpreter.wordpress.com @JanetFew