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Disc e rning a F uture Disc e rnme nt: invo lve s g o ing pa st the me re pe rc e ptio n o f so me thing a nd ma king nua nc e d judg me nts a b o ut its pro pe rtie s o r q ua litie s. A Co lla b o ra tive Pro c e ss o f De lib e ra tio


  1. Disc e rning a F uture Disc e rnme nt: invo lve s g o ing pa st the me re pe rc e ptio n o f so me thing a nd ma king nua nc e d judg me nts a b o ut its pro pe rtie s o r q ua litie s.

  2. A Co lla b o ra tive Pro c e ss o f De lib e ra tio n  De live r info rma tio n yo u ne e d to unde rsta nd the issue s fa c ing the WCC.  Allo w yo u to a sk q ue stio ns a b o ut wha t yo u ha ve le a rne d.  Pro vide the o ppo rtunity fo r ve rb a l a nd writte n fe e db a c k o n o ptio ns.

  3. I ntro duc ing the Adviso ry Co unc il  Ro se Rynda  Ste ve Hue b l  Dia ne We c kma n  F r. K e vin Clinto n  De a c o n Bo b Wa g ne r  Pe te Sc ho e ne c ke r  Be c ky Wilso n  Pe te r Guzula itis  Ca ro l We ie rs  T im L e mke

  4. Pre se nta tio n Outline  L a y o f the L a nd  Co mmunity  Building s  Arc hdio c e se  Que stio n a nd Answe rs  Disc e rnme nt  Ne xt Ste ps

  5. L a y o f the L a nd Co mmunity

  6. Co mmunity  Sinc e the 1880’ s g e ne ra tio ns o f fa milie s b uilt a nd ma inta ine d the se c o mmunitie s c re a ting a stro ng stra in o f inde pe nde nc e in e a c h pa rish.  In 2006 F r. Clinto n b e c o me s Pa sto r o f St. We nc e sla us a nd is a ske d b y Arc hdio c e se to b e g in pa sto ra l pla nning fo r the rura l c hurc he s o f St. Jo hn, St. Sc ho la stic a , St. Be ne dic t, a nd St. Jo se ph.  F r. Clinto n me e ts with F r. Ro e de l a nd F r. Bo c ke nfe ld, a fte r c o nsulta tio n with pa rish truste e s, c o unc ils a nd Ca tho lic F ina nc e Co rpo ra tio n the y re c o mme nd to the Arc hdio c e se tha t St. Jo hn a nd St. Sc ho la stic a will b e the surviving c hurc he s.  2011 the Arc hdio c e se imple me nts the re c o mme nda tio n to me rg e the se 4 pa rishe s with St. We nc e sla us.  T hre e c hurc he s no w ha ve six we e ke nd ma sse s.  Rura l fa ith c o mmunitie s a re pre se rve d in the a re a .

  7. Co mmunity  T he me rg e r me a ns fe we r prie sts a re se rving the c hurc h site s dra ma tic a lly inc re a sing the numb e r o f pe o ple the prie st must se rve .  F ro m 2011-18 we ha ve wo rke d to me rg e the site s with e a c h o the r a nd with St. We nc e sla us. T his pro c e ss ha s ha d va rying de g re e s o f suc c e ss.  291 fa milie s c urre ntly ma ke up the WCC a nd ha ve b e e n suppo rting the o pe ra tio ns a nd ministrie s o f the se site s.  T he c o ntinue d via b ility o f the WCC is c o nting e nt o n the me rg e r with St. We nc e sla us.

  8. Co mmunity – Why No w?  June o f 2019 F r. Clinto n re tire s.  50% o f a c tive prie sts will b e e lig ib le fo r re tire me nt in the ne xt five ye a rs.  T he wa y we c urre ntly o pe ra te re q uire s two prie sts.  T he Arc hdio c e se ne e ds us to c re a te a susta ina b le future so the a ssig nme nt o f two prie sts in the NPACC is a g o o d use o f prie st pe rso nne l.  De mo g ra phic s a nd the de c lining ra te o f c hurc h pa rtic ipa tio n a re c a using c lo sing s.

  9. Why No w? - T he Building s

  10. Building E va lua tio n a nd Po te ntia l Co st  In June two ne utra l pro fe ssio na ls to ure d the se ve n b uilding s o f the WCC. One wa s a lo c a l c o ntra c to r a nd the o the r a n insura nc e b uilding inspe c to r.  T he ir e stima te fo r re pa irs o n b o th b uilding s wa s b e twe e n $400,000-$800,000.  At the sug g e stio n o f the Adviso ry Co unc il, a re pre se nta tive fro m Building Re sto ra tio n Co rpo ra tio n g a ve us a “b udg e t” numb e r o n the e xte rio r b ric k wo rk o n b o th site s.  E stima te s o n just the e xte rio r re pa irs o f b ric ks a t b o th site s ra ng e fro m $401,880 to a hig h o f $543,720. T he me dia n b e ing $472,800.  T his e stima te do e s no t inc lude o the r ne e de d re pa irs tha t yo u will se e in the upc o ming slide s.  All a g re e tha t the issue s fa c e d a t b o th c hurc h site s we re de c a de s in the ma king .  We we re a dvise d tha t re no va tio ns o f b uilding s o ve r 100 ye a rs o ld c a n unc o ve r pro b le ms no t re a dily a ppa re nt, c a using a c tua l c o sts to g o sub sta ntia lly b e yo nd the e stima te pro vide d.  If re pa irs a re ma de , the y will still b e in ne e d o f re g ula r upke e p.

  11. St. Jo hn’ s  Churc h  Co nve nt  K o e nig Ha ll  Sto ra g e Ga ra g e

  12. F o unda tio n E xte rio r F o unda tio n I ssue s

  13. I nte rio r F o unda tio n  L e ft Pic tur e E a st wa ll b e lo w the windo ws in prio r slide .  Right Pic tur e Cra c k o n the we st fo unda tio n wa ll indic a tive o f c ra c king o n a ll fo ur side s o f the fo unda tio n unde rne a th the re c to ry side o f the c hurc h. T he fo unda tio n is b e ing pushe d in a nd must b e re pa ire d.

  14. Windo ws E xa mple s o f the pro b le ms o f mo st o f the windo ws a t St. Jo hns.

  15. Bric ks a nd Mo rta r Pro b le ms with g utte rs a nd so ffits a re c a using de te rio ra tio n o f the b ric ks. E stima te d c o st to re pa ir $245,055 to $331,545. T he me dia n is $288,300.

  16. So ffits a nd Gutte rs  Allo ws wa te r intrusio n into b uilding .  Ca using inte rio r pa int pro b le ms a nd de te rio ra tio n o f the b ric ks.

  17. Ste e ple s  Bric ks a re da ma g e d.  So ffit a nd fla shing pro b le ms.

  18. I nte rio r pa inting da ma g e c a use d b y wa te r intrusio n.

  19. He a ting a nd Asb e sto s  Asb e sto s is e xpo se d a nd fra ying .

  20. St. Sc ho la stic a  Churc h  Re c to ry  Sto ra g e Ga ra g e

  21. E xte rio r  T he re is so me e xte rio r re pa ir ne e de d.  E stima te d c o st fo r the se re pa irs is $156,825 to $212,175. T he me dia n is $184,500.

  22. Ro o f  T he o lde r pa rt o f the ro o f is b e twe e n 50-60 ye a rs o ld a nd will ne e d to b e re pla c e d in the ne xt 5 ye a rs.

  23. I nte rio r Wa te r da ma g e b ut re c e nt ro o f re pa irs ha ve pre ve nte d the pro b le ms fro m g e tting wo rse .

  24. Co nc lusio ns  St. John’s  St. Sc hola stic a  Prio rity re pa irs o n the Churc h: the  Prio rity re pa irs o n the Churc h: the fo unda tio n, so ffits, windo ws, ro o f, ha ndic a ppe d a c c e ssib ility to tuc kpo inting , a sb e sto s a b a te me nt, c hurc h b a se me nt a nd re stro o ms, a nd a ha ndic a ppe d a c c e ssib le a nd e xte rio r re pa irs. b a thro o m in c hurc h.  Re c to ry is c urre ntly re nte d o ut a nd  Co nve nt is no t sa lva g e a b le a nd is in g o o d sha pe . ne e ds to b e to rn do wn.  Roug h e stima te of c osts is is  K o e nig Ha ll is in the b e st c o nditio n $200,000. b ut wo uld ne e d a purpo se a nd e xte nsive re no va tio ns to b e use ful. Cost of a ny r e nova tion is not known.  A r oug h e stima te ma inly for Chur c h s is $600,000 . r e pa ir T o ke e p c osts fr om going up r e pair s ne e d to c omme nc e ASAP. OURS will be he ld on August 12 th and 14 th . You will be able to BUIL DING T se e fir st hand the de te r ior ation that is hinte d at in the pic tur e s.

  25. T he Arc hdio c e se

  26. Arc hdio c e sa n Suppo rt is Affirme d We a re the I n F e b rua ry la rg e st pa rish 2018 T he NPACC in the a re a Arc hb isho p wa s the with a sc ho o l, He b da F r. E ug e ne nursing ho me , a g re e d with la rg e st T he ise n will b e ho spita l, a nd the ne e d fo r me rg e r in Asso c ia te o the r two prie sts in Pa sto r in the sig nific a nt o ur pa rish Oc to b e r 2018 Arc hdio c e se pa sto ra l ne e ds pr o vide d the tha t justify WCC c r e ate s in 2011 a ssig ning two a sustainable prie sts he re . futur e .

  27. Ba se d o n wha t yo u he a rd wha t c la rific a tio n do yo u ne e d? T he re is mo re to c o me in the pre se nta tio n.

  28. Disc e rnme nt

  29. T o wa rds a Susta ina b le F uture Building on the history a nd re silie nc y of St. John a nd St. Sc hola stic a . . . . . Pro g re ss ha s b e e n ma de in uniting the c o mmunitie s o f St. Jo hn’ s a nd St. Sc ho la stic a , muc h mo re is ne e de d to o ve r-c o me the ‘ us’ vs ‘ the m’ within the WCC. T he surviva l o f o ne o r b o th site s RE S yo ur c o mmitme nt to a sma ll rura l QUIRE fa ith c o mmunity RE SS o f the de c isio n o n the b uilding s. GARDL E We ne e d a minimum o f 175 fa milie s willing to suppo rt thro ug h pra ye r a nd pa rtic ipa tio n this o ne c o mmunity.

  30. Pra c tic a litie s o f Re pa iring Bo th Site s  E stima te s to re pa ir St. Sc ho la stic is a t le a st $200,000 a nd fo r St. Jo hn’ s is $600,000 o r mo re .  T hus, to re pa ir b o th site s the c o st wo uld b e $800,000 o r mo re .  T he re a re 291 fa milie s in the WCC.  I n 2017-18 the re we re 175 fa milie s tha t g a ve to the Co mmitme nt Ca mpa ig n. T he o the r 116 fa milie s did no t c o ntrib ute fina nc ia lly.  T he se 175 fa milie s g a ve a n a ve ra g e $756 to suppo rt the da ily o pe ra tio ns o f the WCC in fisc a l ye a r 2017-18. Co ntrib utio ns to a ny c a pita l c a mpa ig n wo uld b e in a dditio n to tha t to ta l.

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