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Disc e rning a F uture

Disc e rnme nt: invo lve s g o ing pa st the me re pe rc e ptio n o f so me thing a nd ma king nua nc e d judg me nts a b o ut its pro pe rtie s o r q ua litie s.

A Co lla b o ra tive Pro c e ss o f De lib e ra tio n

De live r info rma tio n yo u ne e d to unde rsta nd the

issue s fa c ing the WCC.

Allo w yo u to a sk q ue stio ns a b o ut wha t yo u ha ve

le a rne d.

Pro vide the o ppo rtunity fo r ve rb a l a nd writte n

fe e db a c k o n o ptio ns.

I ntro duc ing the Adviso ry Co unc il

Ste ve Hue b l Dia ne We c kma n Pe te Sc ho e ne c ke r Be c ky Wilso n Ca ro l We ie rs T

im L e mke

Ro se Rynda F

• r. K

e vin Clinto n

De a c o n Bo b Wa g ne r Pe te r Guzula itis

Pre se nta tio n Outline

 L

a y o f the L a nd

 Co mmunity  Building s  Arc hdio c e se

 Que stio n a nd Answe rs  Disc e rnme nt

 Ne xt Ste ps

L a y o f the L a nd

Co mmunity

Co mmunity

 Sinc e the 1880’ s g e ne ra tio ns o f fa milie s b uilt a nd ma inta ine d the se c o mmunitie s

c re a ting a stro ng stra in o f inde pe nde nc e in e a c h pa rish.

 In 2006 F

• r. Clinto n b e c o me s Pa sto r o f St. We nc e sla us a nd is a ske d b y

Arc hdio c e se to b e g in pa sto ra l pla nning fo r the rura l c hurc he s o f St. Jo hn, St. Sc ho la stic a , St. Be ne dic t, a nd St. Jo se ph.

 F

• r. Clinto n me e ts with F
• r. Ro e de l a nd F
• r. Bo c ke nfe ld, a fte r c o nsulta tio n with

pa rish truste e s, c o unc ils a nd Ca tho lic F ina nc e Co rpo ra tio n the y re c o mme nd to the Arc hdio c e se tha t St. Jo hn a nd St. Sc ho la stic a will b e the surviving c hurc he s.

 2011 the Arc hdio c e se imple me nts the re c o mme nda tio n to me rg e the se 4

pa rishe s with St. We nc e sla us.

 T

hre e c hurc he s no w ha ve six we e ke nd ma sse s.

 Rura l fa ith c o mmunitie s a re pre se rve d in the a re a .

Co mmunity

 T

he me rg e r me a ns fe we r prie sts a re se rving the c hurc h site s dra ma tic a lly inc re a sing the numb e r o f pe o ple the prie st must se rve .

 F

ro m 2011-18 we ha ve wo rke d to me rg e the site s with e a c h o the r a nd with

• St. We nc e sla us. T

his pro c e ss ha s ha d va rying de g re e s o f suc c e ss.

 291 fa milie s c urre ntly ma ke up the WCC a nd ha ve b e e n suppo rting the

• pe ra tio ns a nd ministrie s o f the se site s.

 T

he c o ntinue d via b ility o f the WCC is c o nting e nt o n the me rg e r with St. We nc e sla us.

Co mmunity – Why No w?

 June o f 2019 F

• r. Clinto n re tire s.

 50% o f a c tive prie sts will b e e lig ib le fo r re tire me nt in the ne xt five ye a rs.  T

he wa y we c urre ntly o pe ra te re q uire s two prie sts.

 T

he Arc hdio c e se ne e ds us to c re a te a susta ina b le future so the a ssig nme nt

• f two prie sts in the NPACC is a g o o d use o f prie st pe rso nne l.

 De mo g ra phic s a nd the de c lining ra te o f c hurc h pa rtic ipa tio n a re c a using

c lo sing s.

Why No w? - T he Building s

Building E va lua tio n a nd Po te ntia l Co st

 In June two ne utra l pro fe ssio na ls to ure d the se ve n b uilding s o f the WCC. One

wa s a lo c a l c o ntra c to r a nd the o the r a n insura nc e b uilding inspe c to r.

 T

he ir e stima te fo r re pa irs o n b o th b uilding s wa s b e twe e n $400,000-$800,000.

 At the sug g e stio n o f the Adviso ry Co unc il, a re pre se nta tive fro m Building

Re sto ra tio n Co rpo ra tio n g a ve us a “b udg e t” numb e r o n the e xte rio r b ric k wo rk

• n b o th site s.

 E

stima te s o n just the e xte rio r re pa irs o f b ric ks a t b o th site s ra ng e fro m $401,880 to a hig h o f $543,720. T he me dia n b e ing $472,800.

 T

his e stima te do e s no t inc lude o the r ne e de d re pa irs tha t yo u will se e in the upc o ming slide s.

 All a g re e tha t the issue s fa c e d a t b o th c hurc h site s we re de c a de s in the

ma king .

 We we re a dvise d tha t re no va tio ns o f b uilding s o ve r 100 ye a rs o ld c a n unc o ve r

pro b le ms no t re a dily a ppa re nt, c a using a c tua l c o sts to g o sub sta ntia lly b e yo nd the e stima te pro vide d.

 If re pa irs a re ma de , the y will still b e in ne e d o f re g ula r upke e p.

• St. Jo hn’ s

 Churc h  Co nve nt  K

• e nig Ha ll

 Sto ra g e Ga ra g e

F

• unda tio n

E xte rio r F

• unda tio n I

ssue s

I nte rio r F

• unda tio n



L e ft Pic tur e

E a st wa ll b e lo w the windo ws in prio r slide .



Right Pic tur e

Cra c k o n the we st fo unda tio n wa ll indic a tive o f c ra c king o n a ll fo ur side s o f the fo unda tio n unde rne a th the re c to ry side o f the c hurc h. T he fo unda tio n is b e ing pushe d in a nd must b e re pa ire d.

Windo ws

E xa mple s o f the pro b le ms o f mo st o f the windo ws a t St. Jo hns.

Bric ks a nd Mo rta r

Pro b le ms with g utte rs a nd so ffits a re c a using de te rio ra tio n o f the b ric ks. E stima te d c o st to re pa ir $245,055 to $331,545. T he me dia n is $288,300.

So ffits a nd Gutte rs

 Allo ws wa te r intrusio n

into b uilding .

 Ca using inte rio r pa int

pro b le ms a nd de te rio ra tio n o f the b ric ks.

Ste e ple s



Bric ks a re da ma g e d.



So ffit a nd fla shing pro b le ms.

I nte rio r pa inting da ma g e c a use d b y wa te r intrusio n.

He a ting a nd Asb e sto s



Asb e sto s is e xpo se d a nd fra ying .

• St. Sc ho la stic a

 Churc h  Re c to ry  Sto ra g e Ga ra g e

E xte rio r

 T

he re is so me e xte rio r re pa ir ne e de d.

 E

stima te d c o st fo r the se re pa irs is $156,825 to $212,175. T he me dia n is $184,500.

Ro o f

 T

he o lde r pa rt o f the ro o f is b e twe e n 50-60 ye a rs o ld a nd will ne e d to b e re pla c e d in the ne xt 5 ye a rs.

I nte rio r

Wa te r da ma g e b ut re c e nt ro o f re pa irs ha ve pre ve nte d the pro b le ms fro m g e tting wo rse .

Co nc lusio ns

 St. John’s  Prio rity re pa irs o n the Churc h: the

fo unda tio n, so ffits, windo ws, tuc kpo inting , a sb e sto s a b a te me nt, a nd a ha ndic a ppe d a c c e ssib le b a thro o m in c hurc h.

 Co nve nt is no t sa lva g e a b le a nd

ne e ds to b e to rn do wn.

 K

• e nig Ha ll is in the b e st c o nditio n

b ut wo uld ne e d a purpo se a nd e xte nsive re no va tio ns to b e use ful.

Cost of a ny r e nova tion is not known.

 A r

• ug h e stima te ma inly for

Chur c h r e pa ir s is $600,000.

 St. Sc hola stic a  Prio rity re pa irs o n the Churc h: the

ro o f, ha ndic a ppe d a c c e ssib ility to c hurc h b a se me nt a nd re stro o ms, a nd e xte rio r re pa irs.

 Re c to ry is c urre ntly re nte d o ut a nd

is in g o o d sha pe .

 Roug h e stima te of c osts is is

$200,000.

T

• ke e p c osts fr
• m going up r

e pair s ne e d to c omme nc e ASAP. BUIL DING T OURS will be he ld on August 12th and 14th. You will be able to se e fir st hand the de te r ior ation that is hinte d at in the pic tur e s.

T he Arc hdio c e se

Arc hdio c e sa n Suppo rt is Affirme d

T he NPACC wa s the la rg e st me rg e r in the Arc hdio c e se in 2011

We a re the la rg e st pa rish in the a re a with a sc ho o l, nursing ho me , ho spita l, a nd

• the r

sig nific a nt pa sto ra l ne e ds tha t justify a ssig ning two prie sts he re . I n F e b rua ry 2018 Arc hb isho p He b da a g re e d with the ne e d fo r two prie sts in

• ur pa rish

pr

• vide d the

WCC c r e ate s a sustainable futur e .

F

• r. E

ug e ne T he ise n will b e Asso c ia te Pa sto r in Oc to b e r 2018

Ba se d o n wha t yo u he a rd wha t c la rific a tio n do yo u ne e d?

T he re is mo re to c o me in the pre se nta tio n.

Disc e rnme nt

T

• wa rds a Susta ina b le F

uture

Building on the history a nd re silie nc y of St. John a nd St. Sc hola stic a . . . . .

Pro g re ss ha s b e e n ma de in uniting the c o mmunitie s o f St. Jo hn’ s a nd St. Sc ho la stic a , muc h mo re is ne e de d to o ve r-c o me the ‘ us’ vs ‘ the m’ within the WCC. T he surviva l o f o ne o r b o th site s RE

QUIRE S yo ur c o mmitme nt to a sma ll rura l

fa ith c o mmunity RE

GARDL E SS o f the de c isio n o n the b uilding s.

We ne e d a minimum o f 175 fa milie s willing to suppo rt thro ug h pra ye r a nd pa rtic ipa tio n this o ne c o mmunity.

Pra c tic a litie s o f Re pa iring Bo th Site s

 E

stima te s to re pa ir St. Sc ho la stic is a t le a st $200,000 a nd fo r St. Jo hn’ s is $600,000 o r mo re .

 T

hus, to re pa ir b o th site s the c o st wo uld b e $800,000 o r mo re .

 T

he re a re 291 fa milie s in the WCC.

 I

n 2017-18 the re we re 175 fa milie s tha t g a ve to the Co mmitme nt Ca mpa ig n. T he o the r 116 fa milie s did no t c o ntrib ute fina nc ia lly.

 T

he se 175 fa milie s g a ve a n a ve ra g e $756 to suppo rt the da ily

• pe ra tio ns o f the WCC in fisc a l ye a r 2017-18. Co ntrib utio ns to a ny

c a pita l c a mpa ig n wo uld b e in a dditio n to tha t to ta l.

Pro po se d F a mily Co ntrib utio n to Re pa ir T wo Site s

Co ntrib uting to a ny c a pita l c a mpa ig n wo uld b e

in a dditio n to re g ula r Sunda y c o lle c tio ns.

T

• re pa ir b o th site s175 fa milie s wo uld ne e d to

g ive o n a ve ra g e fro m to $4,570 (o r mo re ) to a Ca pita l Ca mpa ig n.

Pro po se d F a mily Co ntrib utio n to Re pa ir One Site

 Co st to re pa ir St. Sc ho la stic a is a t le a st $200,000.  F

• r 175 fa milie s to re pa ir the St. Sc ho la stic a site $1,143 (o r

mo re ) to a se pa ra te Ca pita l Ca mpa ig n.

 Co st to re pa ir St. Jo hn is a t le a st $600,000.  F

• r 175 fa milie s to re pa ir the St. Jo hn Site is $3,430 (o r

mo re ) to a se pa ra te Ca pita l Ca mpa ig n.

Wha t is a Susta ina b le F uture ?

 Wha t ma ke s a de c isio n susta ina b le ?  A minimum o f 175 fa milie s suppo rt this c o mmunity.  T

he se 175 fa milie s fina nc ia lly c o mmit to re pa ir b uilding s a nd suppo rt the c hurc h site (s).

 Co mmitme nt to re pa ir b uilding s in the ne xt 3 ye a rs.  Arc hdio c e sa n c o mmitme nt to two prie sts.  T

he c o mmunity must re a lize the prie st c a lls fo rth a nd o rde rs the re so urc e s g ive n b y pa rishio ne rs, b ut a lo ne c a nno t a ssure a susta ina b le future .

F ive Optio ns

 Ma inta in a nd re sc ue BOT

H site s.

 One site – the St. Jo hn’ s Site  One site – the St. Sc ho la stic a Site  One site – site mo st e c o no mic a lly do a b le fo r the future  Clo sure – Ma king a re a listic a nd prude nt judg e me nt a b o ut re a l wo rld limits

a nd no t se e ing c lo sure a s a pe rso na l fa ilure o r b e tra ya l o f histo ry.

 T

his o ptio n is the mo st unple a sa nt.

 150 ye a rs a g o immig ra nt c o mmunitie s c re a te d the se c hurc h site s, ho we ve r,

time s ha ve ra dic a lly c ha ng e d.

 We a re no t a lo ne .

Mo tiva tio na l Co mme nts

Re spo nse She e t

Pa g e One Pa g e T wo Pa g e T hre e

Ne xt Ste ps

 AUGUST

9th: Disc e rnme nt fo rms a re ma ile d o ut to a ll WCC me mb e rs.

 AUGUST

12th : Building to urs a fte r the 8:00 a m ma ss a t St. Sc ho la stic a a nd 10 a m

ma ss a t St. Jo hn’ s.

 AUGUST

14th: Building to urs a t 6:30 pm a t b o th site s.

{Me mb e rs o f the c o mmitte e will b e a va ila b le e a c h da y to a nswe r yo ur q ue stio ns a b o ut the b uilding s. Yo u will b e a b le to se e first ha nd the de te rio ra tio n tha t wa s hinte d a t in the pic ture s.}

 SE

PT E MBE R 4th: De a dline fo r disc e rnme nt Re spo nse She e t to b e re turne d.

 SE

PT E MBE R 12th: Co mmunity me e ting a t 6:30 pm a t the K

C Ha ll to re po rt b a c k o n the info rma tio n inc lude d in the Disc e rnme nt F

• rms.

 SE

PT E MBE R 29th- 30th: Re c o mme nda tio n is a nno unc e d a t ma sse s.

 OCT

OBE R 1st: Re c o mme nda tio n fo rwa rde d to the Arc hdio c e se fo r a ppro va l.

T ha nk Yo u!!