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SuSA and Mean-Field based models: Summary 2019 Ral Gonzlez Jimnez Ral Gonzlez Jimnez Grupo de Fsica Nuclear, IPARCOS, Universidad Complutense de Madrid NuSTEC meeting, December 12, 2019 In collaboration with... SuSA and RMF


  1. SuSA and Mean-Field based models: Summary 2019 Raúl González Jiménez Raúl González Jiménez Grupo de Física Nuclear, IPARCOS, Universidad Complutense de Madrid NuSTEC meeting, December 12, 2019

  2. In collaboration with... SuSA and RMF Ghent University SuSA and RMF Ghent University Juan A. Caballero (Sevilla) Natalie Jachowicz Juan A. Caballero (Sevilla) Natalie Jachowicz Guillermo D. Megias Alexis Nikolakopoulos Guillermo D. Megias Alexis Nikolakopoulos (Sevilla/Saclay/Tokyo) (Sevilla/Saclay/Tokyo) Nils Van Dessel Nils Van Dessel Maria. B. Barbaro (Torino) Maria. B. Barbaro (Torino) A. De Pace (Torino) Kajetan Niewczas (Ghent/ Wroclaw ) A. De Pace (Torino) Kajetan Niewczas (Ghent/ Wroclaw ) T. William Donnelly (MIT) T. William Donnelly (MIT) CEA Saclay CEA Saclay Martin V. Ivanov (Sofia) Martin V. Ivanov (Sofia) Anton Antonov (Sofia) Stephen Dolan Anton Antonov (Sofia) Stephen Dolan J.E. Amaro (Granada) Sara Bolognesi J.E. Amaro (Granada) Sara Bolognesi I. Ruiz-Simo (Granada) I. Ruiz-Simo (Granada) Vishvas Pandey ( Virginia Tech ) Vishvas Pandey ( Virginia Tech ) Jose M. Udías (Madrid) Jose M. Udías (Madrid) 2

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  4. Phys. Rev. C 100 045501 (2019) Inclusive electron scattering at low q: Distorted waves Plane waves 4

  5. Phys. Rev. C 100 045501 (2019) Inclusive electron scattering at low q: Distorted waves Plane waves 5

  6. Phys. Rev. C 100 045501 (2019) Inclusive electron scattering at low q: Orthogonalization Distorted waves Plane waves 6

  7. Phys. Rev. C 100 045501 (2019) Inclusive electron scattering at low q: Distorted waves Plane waves 7

  8. Phys. Rev. C 100 045501 (2019) Inclusive electron scattering at low q: Distorted waves Plane waves When the outgoing nucleon has small momentum its wavelength is comparable to 8 the distance between nucleons: Quantum Mechanics is important !!

  9. Phys. Rev. C 100 045501 (2019) Distortion of the outgoing nucleon (= FSI in a Quantum Mechanical way) Important at intermediate energies too !!! 9

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  11. For a given neutrino energy and scattering angle of the final lepton: n e QE cross section ??? ------------------------------------------ = 1 n m QE cross section 11

  12. For a given neutrino energy and scattering angle of the final lepton: n e QE cross section ??? ------------------------------------------ = 1 n m QE cross section n e QE cross section ??? ------------------------------------------ > 1 n m QE cross section 12

  13. For a given neutrino energy and scattering angle of the final lepton: n e QE cross section ??? ------------------------------------------ = 1 n m QE cross section n e QE cross section ??? ------------------------------------------ > 1 n m QE cross section n e QE cross section ??? ------------------------------------------ < 1 n m QE cross section 13

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  17. SuSAv2 SuSAv2-MEC 17

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  19. SuSAv2-MEC versus MINERvA nub 0pions 19

  20. Full propagator vs real propagator in the delta current. 20

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  22. The 2p2h response scales very differently from the quasielastic one, in full accord with what is predicted by the model. 22

  23. QE: MEC: The 2p2h response scales very differently from the quasielastic one, in full accord with what is predicted by the model. 23

  24. E i = 2222 MeV, Comparison with recent JLab data. q e = 15.541 deg 24

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  26. The SuSAv2 QE response is very similar to that from a model that solves the wave equation in presence of a real energy-dependent optical potential. The coincidence between these two completely independent approaches, which satisfactorily agree with the inclusive data, reinforces the reliability of our predictions and sets constraints for the modeling of the QE response. 26

  27. Carbon Argon Titanium Recent JLab data. E i = 2222 MeV q e = 15.541 deg 27

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  31. What do we need? 31

  32. Inclusive cross section? muon neutrino X nucleus 32

  33. Inclusive cross section? Many models are good for the inclusive xs (at typical QE kinematics). 33

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  36. Inclusive cross section? Many models are good for the inclusive xs (at typical QE kinematics). SuSAv2+MEC is the state of the art among the inclusive models: + Extensively tested against electron and neutrino scattering data: systematically on the data. + Fully relativistic. + Extremely efficient from computational point of view. + For neutrino interactions, it needs to be extended to the DIS region. + Not suppose to work at very low q, but a few things could be done. 36

  37. What do we need? Information about the hadrons? 37

  38. Final State Initial State 1 muon/neutrino neutrino 2 nucleus* nucleus Elastic scattering (difficult) 38

  39. Final State Initial State 1 muon neutrino 2 nucleus* nucleon 3 nucleus Quasielastic scattering (difficult) 39

  40. Final State Initial State 1 muon neutrino 2 nucleus* nucleon 3 nucleon 4 nucleus 2N knockout (extremely difficult) 40

  41. Final State Initial State 1 muon neutrino 2 nucleus* nucleon 3 pion 4 nucleus Single-pion production (extremely difficult) 41

  42. Final State Initial State 1 muon neutrino 2 nucleus* nucleon 3 pion 4 pion 5 nucleus Two-pion production (impossible?) 42

  43. Final State Initial State 1 muon neutrino 2 nucleus* nucleon 3 4 . 5 . . nucleus N Impossible 43

  44. Problem: We are not able to model with accuracy any of the non-inclusive cross sections. 44

  45. Problem: We are not able to model with accuracy any of the non-inclusive cross sections. One exception: Exclusive A(e,e’p)A-1 in a narrow missing energy window (= one nucleon knock out from the outer shells) 45

  46. Exclusive A(e,e’p)A-1 in a narrow missing energy window (outer shells) 46

  47. Conclusions and Outlook: + Modeling all reaction channels with high precision is (and will be) impossible. + Actually, we can describe very well only one channel: QE scattering with only one nucleon in the final state and small missing energy left in the residual nucleus, Em<20 MeV. ++ For such events, the neutrino energy could be reconstructed with few percent accuracy . (Van Orden and Donnelly, arXiv:1908.00932) + We are working on this. 47

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  49. We have presented a real energy-dependent potential that can be used in a large energy range: + For low energies of the outgoing nucleons it is identical to RMF potential, thus: orthogonality, current conservation and dispersion relations are fulfilled. + The phenomenology suggests that for high energies of the outgoing nucleon the potential should become softer. New energy-dependent potential = RMF potential x f(TN) 49

  50. Superscaling Approach Scaling phenomenon - definition It happens when the inclusive cross section can be written as the product of a single-nucleon cross section times a specific function ( scaling function ) that depends on only one variable ( scaling variable ) Most of the models based on IA present scaling at some level. The scaling function incorporates itself all nuclear information. 50

  51. Scaling phenomenon 51

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