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Python Hype? Brian Ray Hi, Im Brian Ray Indy Consulting Years Directive Years 2010-2013 1998-2003 Leadership Years 2009-2010 Engineering Years Big Four Consulting 2003-2006 2013-current Taken in China May 20


  1. Python Hype? Brian Ray

  2. Hi, I’m Brian Ray Indy Consulting Years • Directive Years • 2010-2013 1998-2003 Leadership Years • 2009-2010 Engineering Years • Big Four Consulting • 2003-2006 2013-current Taken in China May 20 th , 2016

  3. Why “Python Hype”? In the last 10 years, we are seeing Python having (select one): A. Slow and steady growth. B. Spiked and now on decline. C. Spiked + Declined now stabilized. D. Lives in independent domain. E. We (Python fans) live in a bubble.

  4. What measure? • Hype Cycle • TIOBE Index • On Github • PYPL • Some other

  5. Don’t tell me there aren’t trends

  6. Programming language “popularity” is hard to measure. Lenses to help measure: 1. Learned: was taught Python in course 2. Migrated: from language to language 3. Addressed: problem class to solve 4. Platform-ed: ecosystem of tools 5. Retained: sticking with Python 6. Promoted: Promoted

  7. 236 respondents broken up into 3 groups OUR SURVEY

  8. Who Groups 1 2 3 The missing group 4: Those who didn’t take the survey

  9. User Distribution 1 2 3 29% 49 % 22%

  10. Treatment of groups • Learned • Addressed • Migrated • Platform-ed 1 2 3 all • Retained • Curve Questions • Promoted

  11. Group 1: Learned/Migrated • 60% heard of python Word of mouth • 56% had very positive first impression, 31% had positive, less than 13% neutral or less. • Net-promoter to recommend

  12. Group 1: Learned/Migrated

  13. Group 1: Learned/Migrated “Python is Now the Most Popular Introductory Teaching Language at Top U.S. Universities” By Philip Guo July 7, 2014

  14. Group 2: addressed / platformed • 63% very positive 1 st impression (3% higher than Group 1) • 77.5% very positive 2 nd impression (after months) • 71 % very positive 3 rd impression Hype curve-esk?

  15. Group 2: addressed / platformed Likes: Dislikes: Flexibility, simplicity, transparency Poor documentation • • Legibility Don’t like whitespace • • Easy to learn Slow • • Approachable Prefer statically typed • • Community Threading • • “Batteries included” Runtime not as ubiquitous as Java • • Correct or “pythonic” way GIL • • Standard library Models not pip installable • • Online resources Inheritance can be confusing • • Scientific libraries Lack of Mobile dev support • • Versatile That it’s not Lisp • • Third party libraries Python 2 or 3 choice • • Online communities Package support for Python 3 • • Concise Python 2 vs 3 • • Easy to get started Dependency Management • • Not Java 8 Installation Issues • • Garbage collection Smarmy attitude • • Great depth • Complex times included •

  16. Group 3: Retainer / Promoter Group 1 Group 3 53% think Python Very high quality, 39% High, less then 9% • Natural or below

  17. Group 3: Retainer / Promoter Group 1 Group 3

  18. Group 3: Retainer / Promoter Small drawbacks: • 45% Speed • 44% GIL • 30% easy to duck type / monkey patch Big Drawbacks: • 9% GIL • 15% Unicode Support Critical: • 5% Unicode Support – 25% – 50% – 100% – Python 2 (before 2.7) 10.64% 12.77% 2.13% Python 2.7 - 2.x 16.67% 30.30% 43.94% Python 3+ 22.03% 32.20% 23.73% PyPy 14.89% 0.00% 2.13% Jython 4.44% 4.44% 0.00%

  19. Group 3: third-party • Surveyed 58 most downloaded pypi packages • 53% marked “Used” • 24% marked “long time user” • 14% marked “plan on long time” • 7% marked “stop”

  20. Group 3: third-party Top Plan on long time: pip kid virtualenv ipython pep8 requests pandas django celery reportlab Top Stopped: plone pylons pycurl twissted zope nose pyramid

  21. All Groups • Hype

  22. All Groups • TIOBE When did Python Peak: Other: • 2007: 1% 2011: when google recruited for • • 2010: 28% Science/web lead to second • wave • Never: 46% 2011-2012 • • Other: 23% 2014 • Peak is still coming • Big Data will lead to future peak •

  23. All Groups • Github 2008-2009 2010-2013 2014+

  24. Github Top Python Projects 60,0 50,0 How forked 40,0 30,0 8,0 PHP 20,0 7,0 6,0 Python 5,0 10,0 4,0 Objective-C 3,0 2,0 C 0,0 1,0 before 2010 2013-2014 after 2014 C++ 0,0 JavaScript Ruby Java PHP Python Shell Objective-C C C++ Java Shell CoffeeScript Activity, based on count: watched + forked

  25. All Groups • PYPL Why seeing Steady upward Line? • Has broader range of uses, unlike Ruby (rails and devops) • Mirrors Data Science Usage • Mirrors Big Data Usage • Steady growth

  26. Some other “Popularity” Metrics OTHER FACTORS

  27. A local approach • Jobs • Meetups

  28. Corporate Suite • Python (and R) compatibility with Commercial vendors: Datameer, IBM, Microsoft Azure, Oracle, Platfora, SAP, Tableau, Teradata and Tibco Software.

  29. Adoption in Data Science • KDNuggets reporting that 49% of analytics and data mining developers have used R, and 35% have used Python

  30. Google hiring Python It all got started, I believe, because the very earliest Googlers (Sergey, Larry, Craig, ...) made a good engineering decision: "Python where we can, C++ where we must” - Alex Martelli Python's growth and acceptance in its many roles just hasn't followed any ups-and-downs curve as models would predict -- it's been pretty steadily, gradually upwards instead.

  31. Some interpretation of results… HIGHLIGHTS

  32. Revisiting our question A. Slow and steady growth. B. Spiked and now on decline. C. Spiked + Declined now stabilized. D. Lives in independent domain. E. We (Python fans) live in a bubble.

  33. Slow and steady growth. Supports: Negates: Strong first impressions from 20% no disruptive • • Group 1, 2, 3 5% increase in watchers+forkers on • Strong retention in group 2 github • Spikes not We did • • measures as measure large some spikes 30% of hardcore • users have switched to Python 3+ 50% of the time or more Because Alex Martelli • says so

  34. Spiked and now on decline. Supports: Negates: Some domain-specific languages, Lack of significant data showing decline in • • push down? Python popularity Lack of mobile support Very low activity scores confirming decline • • Small amount of degative: 2/3 Not much negative press • • support, swarmy 46% say never peaked •

  35. Spiked + Declined now stabilized Supports: Negates: 30% Data Science market uses Hard to measure market penetration, is it • • Python 20% ¼ surveyed see as in reached Of third party packages, only 14% plan on • • Productivity/maturity using what they use now for a long time TOIBE shows some spike-ish • around 2010- 28% surveyed agree

  36. Lives in independent domain Supports: Negates: Python remained someone on Google and others site using Python with • • effected on the PYPL Index where other languages clearly other languages ebbed and Considered good-glue • flowed Commercial software vendors adding • Python support

  37. We (Python fans) live in a bubble Supports: Negates: Nearly 90% approval rating is Python lives in two many different • • insane, and that’s who took the independent domains to be blind sided survey 45% of users found Python from • Word of Mouth

  38. In my own words SOME CLOSING THOUGHTS

  39. The Future of Python • A good choice to learn • Not going away (anytime soon) • Get involved with your local community • Contribute in your area of interest • Python Addition Helpline • Openness allows self fulfilling prophecy • Still, don’t live in a vacuum, learn other languages!

  40. Brian Ray Email: brianhray@gmail.com or brray@deloitte.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianray https://twitter.com/brianray https://github.com/brianray http://chipy.org THANK YOU!

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