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Working Group II meeting 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal Agenda 12:00 Opening of the meeting 12:05 Adoption of the agenda 12:10 Follow-up on action items 12:30 Fishing opportunities 2019: presentation of ICES advice Celtic Sea


  1. Working Group II meeting 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  2. Agenda 12:00 Opening of the meeting 12:05 Adoption of the agenda 12:10 Follow-up on action items 12:30 Fishing opportunities 2019: presentation of ICES advice • Celtic Sea herring • Irish Sea herring 13:00 Lunch 14:00 Fishing opportunities 2019: presentation of ICES advice • Herring in 6a and 7b,c • Special Request Boarfish & Greater Silver Smelt 14:30 Northeast Atlantic mackerel • Update WKRRMAC in Bremerhaven • Presentation acoustic surveys by Paul Fernandes (information) Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  3. Agenda 15:00 Southern horse mackerel • Follow-up ICES advice and management plan 15:10 Celtic Sea herring • Status monitoring plan (information) • Adoption of PELAC advice (decision) 15:30 Irish Sea herring • Adoption of PELAC advice (decision) 15:40 Herring in 6a and 7bc • Status rebuilding plan (information) • Update on genetics project by Edward Farrell (information) • Adoption of PELAC advice (decision) 16:20 Coffee break 16:35 Western horse mackerel • Update from the Focus Group (information) • Timeframe (information) Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  4. Agenda 16:55 PELAC recommendations on proposal for the revision of the Control Regulaiton (decision) 17:15 Landing Obligation • Update Member States discard plans (information) • PELAC Opinion paper on de minimis exemptions and TAC reduction calculations (information, decision) 17:45 AOB 18:00 End of meeting Wine tasting organised between 19.00 – 20.00 hrs in the same building Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  5. Follow-up on action items • Reach consensus over PELAC recommendation on Fmsy reporting (Gonçalo Carvalho, Claus Reedtz-Sparrevohn) – postponed till October meeting • Actively participate in mackerel workshop in Bremerhaven and propose to ExCom to send a letter requesting inclusion of the Fmsy project on the workshop agenda (Chairman, ExCom, secretariat) ✓ • Follow-up why ICES advice was not based on the management plan for Southern horse mackerel and confirm to follow the management plan for the 2020 advice (Commission) – update today Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  6. Follow-up on action items • Discuss clarity of requests on MSEs with ICES and managers during the July meeting (Chairman, ICES, Commission) – update toda y • Draft a briefing for DG Research on genetic sampling project and secure DG Research attendance at future meeting (chairman, Ken Whelan, secretariat) – remove from list until further progress • Follow-up on revised rebuilding plan and evaluation for 6a herring: respond to Pelagic AC letter and find solution before July meeting (Commission, ICES, chairman, secretariat) – update today • Finalize and present draft recommendations Control FG to Working Group II for the July meeting (FG members, chairman, secretariat) ✓ Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  7. Follow-up on action items • Explore possibilities for inclusion of Irish WHOM logbook data to the PFA self-sampling plan (Chairman, Martin Pastoors) - ongoing • Respond to PELAC letter what Commission foresees to do with regard to discard estimates in future TAC setting and provide details on the methodology for calculating the TAC reductions for horse mackerel ✓ • Address ambiguity in figures and wording of de minimis exemptions in NWW discard plan at next HLG meeting of the NWW group and ensure the NS discard plan wording is followed – partly done • Hold WebEx to draft detailed questions for the Commission on the calculations of TAC reductions and the figures used for bycatch estimates (Chairman, secretariat, Gerard van Balsfoort, Jérôme Jourdain) ✓ Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  8. Follow-up on action items • Circulate the request for Celtic Sea Monitoring TAC to ExCom for approval by written procedure, and discuss this at the Executive Committee (Secretariat, ExCom, Marine Institute) ✓ Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  9. Fishing opportunities 2020 Presentation of ICES advice by Colm Lordan, vice-chair of ACOM ➢ Celtic Sea Herring ➢ Irish sea Herring ➢ Herring 6a, 7 bc ➢ Special request Boarfish &Greater Silver Smelt Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  10. Northeast Atlantic mackerel • Update WKRRMAC Bremerhaven Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  11. Update WKRRMAC Bremerhaven • ICES workshop 7- 9th of May 2019, Bremerhaven (Germany) • Broad participation of stakeholders: scientists, CS managers, industry, NGO. • Discussion quality of the mackerel assessment; evidence needs and development of a roadmap for future science • PELAC was invited to present Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  12. TAC advice revisions over recent years 1.200.000 1.000.000 800.000 600.000 400.000 200.000 0 2014 2016 2017 2019 TAC TAC revised

  13. SSB estimate revisions over recent years 6.000.000 5.000.000 4.000.000 3.000.000 2.000.000 1.000.000 (*) 0 2014 2016 2017 2019 SSB SSB revised (*) Absence SSB figure (2014): No advice was issued the first time. ICES rejected the age- based assessment and used the average of catches for the previous three years to give advice.

  14. Is the advice robust enough for long term fisheries management? New perception in SSB 2019 (inter-benchmark): Substantial upward revision 4.16 Mt 2.35 Mt

  15. Is the advice robust enough for long term fisheries management? New perception in SSB 2019 (inter-benchmark): Substantial upward revision 4.16 Mt 2.35 Mt

  16. Update WKRRMAC Bremerhaven Quality assurance is key • ICES needs a robust system that identifies CCP’s and monitors/ controls these points throughout the entire process : ➢ Planning ➢ Data collection ➢ Storage and transfer ➢ Every data source ➢ Data analysis ➢ Modelling & Model used ➢ ICES advice process ➢ Issuing of Advice Example: RFID tagging data in the assessment

  17. Conclusions Pelagic AC • Volatility in ICES NEA mackerel advice is a major concern • Robust (pref. ISO-accredited) quality assurance required • Quality assurance must cover entire ICES assessment and advisory process NB. The Pelagic AC recognizes that ICES has begun the work on QA, but has still a long way to go.

  18. Conclusions Pelagic AC • PELAC recommends stronger collaboration between science and industry • PELAC highlights a number of issues to be addressed: recruitment, survey contradictions, density dependance growth, acoustic improvements • Overall TAC overshoot is concern • PELAC underlines the need for an overall sharing arrangement for mackerel between Coastal States

  19. Northeast Atlantic mackerel Presentation acoustic surveys • by Paul Fernandes Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  20. Southern horse mackerel Follow up on ICES advice and management plan Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  21. Celtic Sea herring • ICES advises 0 TAC in 2020 (MSY) • TAC 2019: 4,742 tonnes (MSY) • PELAC management plan no longer considered precautionary Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  22. Celtic Sea herring • Status monitoring TAC Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  23. Celtic Sea herring Adoption of PELAC advice Decision October Meeting Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  24. Celtic Sea herring Decision October Meeting Draft Recommendations ▪ Follow ICES advice 2020: 0 t ▪ Finalise plan for Monitoring TAC ▪ Follow up on mixing issue with Irish Sea herring Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  25. Irish Sea herring • ICES advises catches of no more than 8,064 tonnes in 2020 (MSY) • TAC 2019: 6896 tonnes (MSY) Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  26. Irish Sea herring Adoption of PELAC advice Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  27. Irish Sea herring Recommendations ▪ Follow ICES Advice 2020 8,064 t ▪ Commence work on management strategy ? Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  28. Herring in 6a and 7bc • Status rebuilding plan • Update on genetics project • Adoption of PELAC advice Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  29. Herring in 6a and 7b,c Status revised rebuilding plan Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  30. Update genetics project By Edward Farrell Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  31. Herring in 6a and 7b,c • ICES advises zero catch in 2020 (MSY) • 2019 Advice: zero catch and implement stock recovery plan Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  32. Herring in 6a and 7b,c Adoption of PELAC advice Decision October Meeting Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  33. Herring in 6a and 7b,c Draft Recommendations Decision October Meeting • Resolve rebuilding plan issue • Continue Scientific Monitoring TAC for 2020 • Continue Genetics project • Continue Industry Acoustic Surveys • Seek Benchmark end 2020 Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  34. Western horse mackerel • Update from the Focus Group • Timeframe Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

  35. Western horse mackerel Update from the Focus Group • By Claus Reedtz-Sparrevohn FG held on 20 th June 2019 around two days ad hoc working group on rebuilding plans . Working Group II, 10 July 2019, Lisbon, Portugal

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