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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Idling and Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace Huw Price Centre for Time University of Sydney Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace / Introduction


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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other

Idling and Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace

Huw Price

Centre for Time · University of Sydney

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other

 Introduction  Sidling on one hand  Idling on the other hand

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

 Introduction

Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

 Sidling on one hand  Idling on the other hand

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Avoiding five errors

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Avoiding five errors

The Myth of the Given Bare naturalism Rampant platonism Idealism Frictionless spinning in the void

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Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Avoiding five errors

The Myth of the Given Bare naturalism Rampant platonism Idealism Frictionless spinning in the void

?

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Avoiding five errors

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Idealism/anti-realism Frictionless spinning in the void Rampant platonism The Myth of the Given Bare naturalism

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Avoiding five errors

Idealism/anti-realism Frictionless spinning in the void Rampant platonism The Myth of the Given Bare naturalism Naturalized platonism ("Re-enchanting nature")

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

“Giving philosophy peace”

Idealism/anti-realism Frictionless spinning in the void Rampant platonism The Myth of the Given Bare naturalism Naturalized platonism ("Re-enchanting nature")

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

“Giving philosophy peace”

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Idealism/anti-realism Frictionless spinning in the void Rampant platonism The Myth of the Given Bare naturalism

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) “[I]t is one thing to recognize that the impersonal stance of scientific investigation is a methodological necessity for the achievement of a valuable mode of understanding reality; it is quite another thing to take the dawning grasp of this, in the modern era, for a metaphysical insight into the notion of objectivity as such ... The detranscendental- ized analogue of Kant’s picture that empiricist realism amounts to is not the educated common sense picture it represents itself as being; it is shallow metaphysics.” (MVR, )

My issue: Is the right philosophical pacifier – and is McDowell’s proposed pacifier – a better, deeper, metaphysics? Or does it renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or, perhaps, in favour of a blanket quietism)?

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) “[I]t is one thing to recognize that the impersonal stance of scientific investigation is a methodological necessity for the achievement of a valuable mode of understanding reality; it is quite another thing to take the dawning grasp of this, in the modern era, for a metaphysical insight into the notion of objectivity as such ... The detranscendental- ized analogue of Kant’s picture that empiricist realism amounts to is not the educated common sense picture it represents itself as being; it is shallow metaphysics.” (MVR, )

My issue: Is the right philosophical pacifier – and is McDowell’s proposed pacifier – a better, deeper, metaphysics? Or does it renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or, perhaps, in favour of a blanket quietism)?

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) “[I]t is one thing to recognize that the impersonal stance of scientific investigation is a methodological necessity for the achievement of a valuable mode of understanding reality; it is quite another thing to take the dawning grasp of this, in the modern era, for a metaphysical insight into the notion of objectivity as such ... The detranscendental- ized analogue of Kant’s picture that empiricist realism amounts to is not the educated common sense picture it represents itself as being; it is shallow metaphysics.” (MVR, )

My issue: Is the right philosophical pacifier – and is McDowell’s proposed pacifier – a better, deeper, metaphysics? Or does it renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or, perhaps, in favour of a blanket quietism)?

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) “[I]t is one thing to recognize that the impersonal stance of scientific investigation is a methodological necessity for the achievement of a valuable mode of understanding reality; it is quite another thing to take the dawning grasp of this, in the modern era, for a metaphysical insight into the notion of objectivity as such ... The detranscendental- ized analogue of Kant’s picture that empiricist realism amounts to is not the educated common sense picture it represents itself as being; it is shallow metaphysics.” (MVR, )

My issue: Is the right philosophical pacifier – and is McDowell’s proposed pacifier – a better, deeper, metaphysics? Or does it renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or, perhaps, in favour of a blanket quietism)?

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) “[I]t is one thing to recognize that the impersonal stance of scientific investigation is a methodological necessity for the achievement of a valuable mode of understanding reality; it is quite another thing to take the dawning grasp of this, in the modern era, for a metaphysical insight into the notion of objectivity as such ... The detranscendental- ized analogue of Kant’s picture that empiricist realism amounts to is not the educated common sense picture it represents itself as being; it is shallow metaphysics.” (MVR, )

My issue: Is the right philosophical pacifier – and is McDowell’s proposed pacifier – a better, deeper, metaphysics? Or does it renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or, perhaps, in favour of a blanket quietism)?

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) “[I]t is one thing to recognize that the impersonal stance of scientific investigation is a methodological necessity for the achievement of a valuable mode of understanding reality; it is quite another thing to take the dawning grasp of this, in the modern era, for a metaphysical insight into the notion of objectivity as such ... The detranscendental- ized analogue of Kant’s picture that empiricist realism amounts to is not the educated common sense picture it represents itself as being; it is shallow metaphysics.” (MVR, )

My issue: Is the right philosophical pacifier – and is McDowell’s proposed pacifier – a better, deeper, metaphysics? Or does it renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or, perhaps, in favour of a blanket quietism)?

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) “[I]t is one thing to recognize that the impersonal stance of scientific investigation is a methodological necessity for the achievement of a valuable mode of understanding reality; it is quite another thing to take the dawning grasp of this, in the modern era, for a metaphysical insight into the notion of objectivity as such ... The detranscendental- ized analogue of Kant’s picture that empiricist realism amounts to is not the educated common sense picture it represents itself as being; it is shallow metaphysics.” (MVR, )

My issue: Is the right philosophical pacifier – and is McDowell’s proposed pacifier – a better, deeper, metaphysics? Or does it renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or, perhaps, in favour of a blanket quietism)?

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Hemming-in the third way

My project I want to try to constrain McDowell’s third path from two sides – one “sidling”, the other “idling” – to see if I can reach a point at which it must jump one way or other. And I want the character of that choice to be a choice between an uncomfortable metaphysical commitment, on one side, and an acceptance of “sideways” though non-metaphysical philosophical stance, on the other.

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Hemming-in the third way

My project I want to try to constrain McDowell’s third path from two sides – one “sidling”, the other “idling” – to see if I can reach a point at which it must jump one way or other. And I want the character of that choice to be a choice between an uncomfortable metaphysical commitment, on one side, and an acceptance of “sideways” though non-metaphysical philosophical stance, on the other.

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Hemming-in the third way

My project I want to try to constrain McDowell’s third path from two sides – one “sidling”, the other “idling” – to see if I can reach a point at which it must jump one way or other. And I want the character of that choice to be a choice between an uncomfortable metaphysical commitment, on one side, and an acceptance of “sideways” though non-metaphysical philosophical stance, on the other.

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Five philosophical errors Giving philosophy peace Good metaphysics or no metaphysics? My project: boxing-in the third way

Hemming-in the third way

My project I want to try to constrain McDowell’s third path from two sides – one “sidling”, the other “idling” – to see if I can reach a point at which it must jump one way or other. And I want the character of that choice to be a choice between an uncomfortable metaphysical commitment, on one side, and an acceptance of “sideways” though non-metaphysical philosophical stance, on the other.

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

 Introduction  Sidling on one hand

Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

 Idling on the other hand

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

A fellow pluralist . . .

“Now, once it is granted ... that empiricism in moral philosophy is compatible with the recognition that ‘ought’ has as distinguished a role in discourse as descriptive and logical terms, in particular that we reason rather than ‘reason’ concerning ought, and once the tautology ‘The world is described by descriptive concepts’ is freed from the idea that the business of all non-logical concepts is to describe, the way is clear to an ungrudging recognition that many expressions which empiricists have relegated to second-class citizenship in discourse, are not inferior, just different. [Sellars, ‘Counterfactuals, Dispositions, and the Causal Modalities’, §]

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

A fellow pluralist . . .

“Now, once it is granted ... that empiricism in moral philosophy is compatible with the recognition that ‘ought’ has as distinguished a role in discourse as descriptive and logical terms, in particular that we reason rather than ‘reason’ concerning ought, and once the tautology ‘The world is described by descriptive concepts’ is freed from the idea that the business of all non-logical concepts is to describe, the way is clear to an ungrudging recognition that many expressions which empiricists have relegated to second-class citizenship in discourse, are not inferior, just different. [Sellars, ‘Counterfactuals, Dispositions, and the Causal Modalities’, §]

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

A fellow pluralist . . .

“Now, once it is granted ... that empiricism in moral philosophy is compatible with the recognition that ‘ought’ has as distinguished a role in discourse as descriptive and logical terms, in particular that we reason rather than ‘reason’ concerning ought, and once the tautology ‘The world is described by descriptive concepts’ is freed from the idea that the business of all non-logical concepts is to describe, the way is clear to an ungrudging recognition that many expressions which empiricists have relegated to second-class citizenship in discourse, are not inferior, just different. [Sellars, ‘Counterfactuals, Dispositions, and the Causal Modalities’, §]

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

A fellow pluralist . . .

“Now, once it is granted ... that empiricism in moral philosophy is compatible with the recognition that ‘ought’ has as distinguished a role in discourse as descriptive and logical terms, in particular that we reason rather than ‘reason’ concerning ought, and once the tautology ‘The world is described by descriptive concepts’ is freed from the idea that the business of all non-logical concepts is to describe, the way is clear to an ungrudging recognition that many expressions which empiricists have relegated to second-class citizenship in discourse, are not inferior, just different. [Sellars, ‘Counterfactuals, Dispositions, and the Causal Modalities’, §]

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

A fellow pluralist . . .

“Now, once it is granted ... that empiricism in moral philosophy is compatible with the recognition that ‘ought’ has as distinguished a role in discourse as descriptive and logical terms, in particular that we reason rather than ‘reason’ concerning ought, and once the tautology ‘The world is described by descriptive concepts’ is freed from the idea that the business of all non-logical concepts is to describe, the way is clear to an ungrudging recognition that many expressions which empiricists have relegated to second-class citizenship in discourse, are not inferior, just different. [Sellars, ‘Counterfactuals, Dispositions, and the Causal Modalities’, §]

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

A fellow pluralist . . .

“Now, once it is granted ... that empiricism in moral philosophy is compatible with the recognition that ‘ought’ has as distinguished a role in discourse as descriptive and logical terms, in particular that we reason rather than ‘reason’ concerning ought, and once the tautology ‘The world is described by descriptive concepts’ is freed from the idea that the business of all non-logical concepts is to describe, the way is clear to an ungrudging recognition that many expressions which empiricists have relegated to second-class citizenship in discourse, are not inferior, just different. [Sellars, ‘Counterfactuals, Dispositions, and the Causal Modalities’, §]

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

. . . but with more sympathy for empiricism?

“We have learned the hard way that the core truth of ‘emotivism’ is not only compatible with, but absurd without, ungrudging recognition of the fact, so properly stressed (if mis-assimilated to the model of describing) by ‘ethical rationalists,’ that ethical discourse as ethical discourse is a mode of rational discourse. It is my purpose to argue that the core truth of Hume’s philosophy of causation is not

  • nly compatible with, but absurd without, ungrudging recognition of those features of

causal discourse as a mode of rational discourse on which the ’metaphysical rationalists’ laid such stress but also mis-assimilated to describing.” [CDCM, §]

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

. . . but with more sympathy for empiricism?

“We have learned the hard way that the core truth of ‘emotivism’ is not only compatible with, but absurd without, ungrudging recognition of the fact, so properly stressed (if mis-assimilated to the model of describing) by ‘ethical rationalists,’ that ethical discourse as ethical discourse is a mode of rational discourse. It is my purpose to argue that the core truth of Hume’s philosophy of causation is not

  • nly compatible with, but absurd without, ungrudging recognition of those features of

causal discourse as a mode of rational discourse on which the ’metaphysical rationalists’ laid such stress but also mis-assimilated to describing.” [CDCM, §]

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

. . . but with more sympathy for empiricism?

“We have learned the hard way that the core truth of ‘emotivism’ is not only compatible with, but absurd without, ungrudging recognition of the fact, so properly stressed (if mis-assimilated to the model of describing) by ‘ethical rationalists,’ that ethical discourse as ethical discourse is a mode of rational discourse. It is my purpose to argue that the core truth of Hume’s philosophy of causation is not

  • nly compatible with, but absurd without, ungrudging recognition of those features of

causal discourse as a mode of rational discourse on which the ’metaphysical rationalists’ laid such stress but also mis-assimilated to describing.” [CDCM, §]

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Comparing Sellars and McDowell

Similarities Sellars and McDowell are both pluralists, non-reductionists, and non-“second-rate-ists” (e.g., about ethical discourse). They agree that “ethical discourse is a mode of rational discourse”. Apparent differences Sellars thinks:

That there is nevertheless something right about the empiricist claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”.

That there is a fruitful perspective “from sideways-on”, examining the distinctive “function” or logical role of these vocabularies – and, as for the empiricists, that this perspective provides an alternative to metaphysics (as a route to philosophical illumination about the matters in question).

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Comparing Sellars and McDowell

Similarities Sellars and McDowell are both pluralists, non-reductionists, and non-“second-rate-ists” (e.g., about ethical discourse). They agree that “ethical discourse is a mode of rational discourse”. Apparent differences Sellars thinks:

That there is nevertheless something right about the empiricist claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”.

That there is a fruitful perspective “from sideways-on”, examining the distinctive “function” or logical role of these vocabularies – and, as for the empiricists, that this perspective provides an alternative to metaphysics (as a route to philosophical illumination about the matters in question).

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Comparing Sellars and McDowell

Similarities Sellars and McDowell are both pluralists, non-reductionists, and non-“second-rate-ists” (e.g., about ethical discourse). They agree that “ethical discourse is a mode of rational discourse”. Apparent differences Sellars thinks:

That there is nevertheless something right about the empiricist claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”.

That there is a fruitful perspective “from sideways-on”, examining the distinctive “function” or logical role of these vocabularies – and, as for the empiricists, that this perspective provides an alternative to metaphysics (as a route to philosophical illumination about the matters in question).

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Comparing Sellars and McDowell

Similarities Sellars and McDowell are both pluralists, non-reductionists, and non-“second-rate-ists” (e.g., about ethical discourse). They agree that “ethical discourse is a mode of rational discourse”. Apparent differences Sellars thinks:

That there is nevertheless something right about the empiricist claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”.

That there is a fruitful perspective “from sideways-on”, examining the distinctive “function” or logical role of these vocabularies – and, as for the empiricists, that this perspective provides an alternative to metaphysics (as a route to philosophical illumination about the matters in question).

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Comparing Sellars and McDowell

Similarities Sellars and McDowell are both pluralists, non-reductionists, and non-“second-rate-ists” (e.g., about ethical discourse). They agree that “ethical discourse is a mode of rational discourse”. Apparent differences Sellars thinks:

That there is nevertheless something right about the empiricist claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”.

That there is a fruitful perspective “from sideways-on”, examining the distinctive “function” or logical role of these vocabularies – and, as for the empiricists, that this perspective provides an alternative to metaphysics (as a route to philosophical illumination about the matters in question).

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Comparing Sellars and McDowell

Similarities Sellars and McDowell are both pluralists, non-reductionists, and non-“second-rate-ists” (e.g., about ethical discourse). They agree that “ethical discourse is a mode of rational discourse”. Apparent differences Sellars thinks:

That there is nevertheless something right about the empiricist claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”.

That there is a fruitful perspective “from sideways-on”, examining the distinctive “function” or logical role of these vocabularies – and, as for the empiricists, that this perspective provides an alternative to metaphysics (as a route to philosophical illumination about the matters in question).

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Comparing Sellars and McDowell

Similarities Sellars and McDowell are both pluralists, non-reductionists, and non-“second-rate-ists” (e.g., about ethical discourse). They agree that “ethical discourse is a mode of rational discourse”. Apparent differences Sellars thinks:

That there is nevertheless something right about the empiricist claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”.

That there is a fruitful perspective “from sideways-on”, examining the distinctive “function” or logical role of these vocabularies – and, as for the empiricists, that this perspective provides an alternative to metaphysics (as a route to philosophical illumination about the matters in question).

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Comparing Sellars and McDowell

Similarities Sellars and McDowell are both pluralists, non-reductionists, and non-“second-rate-ists” (e.g., about ethical discourse). They agree that “ethical discourse is a mode of rational discourse”. Apparent differences Sellars thinks:

That there is nevertheless something right about the empiricist claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”.

That there is a fruitful perspective “from sideways-on”, examining the distinctive “function” or logical role of these vocabularies – and, as for the empiricists, that this perspective provides an alternative to metaphysics (as a route to philosophical illumination about the matters in question).

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Comparing Sellars and McDowell

Similarities Sellars and McDowell are both pluralists, non-reductionists, and non-“second-rate-ists” (e.g., about ethical discourse). They agree that “ethical discourse is a mode of rational discourse”. Apparent differences Sellars thinks:

That there is nevertheless something right about the empiricist claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”.

That there is a fruitful perspective “from sideways-on”, examining the distinctive “function” or logical role of these vocabularies – and, as for the empiricists, that this perspective provides an alternative to metaphysics (as a route to philosophical illumination about the matters in question).

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Deflating “describing”?

A tempting move Deflate “describing”, in order to undermine Sellars’ claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”. Yes, but . . . What does this do to Sellars’ positive program – his “sideways”, explanatory alternative to metaphysics? It makes no difference to his positive claims about the functions of ethical and modal vocabulary (because a deflated notion of description doesn’t provide any sort of rival theory).

Tempting for me, and I suspect for McDowell, too. In the lives of natural creatures like us – hence its naturalism.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Deflating “describing”?

A tempting move Deflate “describing”, in order to undermine Sellars’ claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”. Yes, but . . . What does this do to Sellars’ positive program – his “sideways”, explanatory alternative to metaphysics? It makes no difference to his positive claims about the functions of ethical and modal vocabulary (because a deflated notion of description doesn’t provide any sort of rival theory).

Tempting for me, and I suspect for McDowell, too. In the lives of natural creatures like us – hence its naturalism.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Deflating “describing”?

A tempting move Deflate “describing”, in order to undermine Sellars’ claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”. Yes, but . . . What does this do to Sellars’ positive program – his “sideways”, explanatory alternative to metaphysics? It makes no difference to his positive claims about the functions of ethical and modal vocabulary (because a deflated notion of description doesn’t provide any sort of rival theory).

Tempting for me, and I suspect for McDowell, too. In the lives of natural creatures like us – hence its naturalism.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Deflating “describing”?

A tempting move Deflate “describing”, in order to undermine Sellars’ claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”. Yes, but . . . What does this do to Sellars’ positive program – his “sideways”, explanatory alternative to metaphysics? It makes no difference to his positive claims about the functions of ethical and modal vocabulary (because a deflated notion of description doesn’t provide any sort of rival theory).

Tempting for me, and I suspect for McDowell, too. In the lives of natural creatures like us – hence its naturalism.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Deflating “describing”?

A tempting move Deflate “describing”, in order to undermine Sellars’ claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”. Yes, but . . . What does this do to Sellars’ positive program – his “sideways”, explanatory alternative to metaphysics? It makes no difference to his positive claims about the functions of ethical and modal vocabulary (because a deflated notion of description doesn’t provide any sort of rival theory).

Tempting for me, and I suspect for McDowell, too. In the lives of natural creatures like us – hence its naturalism.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Deflating “describing”?

A tempting move Deflate “describing”, in order to undermine Sellars’ claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”. Yes, but . . . What does this do to Sellars’ positive program – his “sideways”, explanatory alternative to metaphysics? It makes no difference to his positive claims about the functions of ethical and modal vocabulary (because a deflated notion of description doesn’t provide any sort of rival theory).

Tempting for me, and I suspect for McDowell, too. In the lives of natural creatures like us – hence its naturalism.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Deflating “describing”?

A tempting move Deflate “describing”, in order to undermine Sellars’ claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”. Yes, but . . . What does this do to Sellars’ positive program – his “sideways”, explanatory alternative to metaphysics? It makes no difference to his positive claims about the functions of ethical and modal vocabulary (because a deflated notion of description doesn’t provide any sort of rival theory). So deflating “describing” doesn’t alter the fact that Sellars is agreeing with empiricism that a fruitful approach is “sideways-on” – to explain the role of the vocabularies, not to investigate the nature of moral or modal facts.

Tempting for me, and I suspect for McDowell, too. In the lives of natural creatures like us – hence its naturalism.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Deflating “describing”?

A tempting move Deflate “describing”, in order to undermine Sellars’ claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”. Yes, but . . . What does this do to Sellars’ positive program – his “sideways”, explanatory alternative to metaphysics? It makes no difference to his positive claims about the functions of ethical and modal vocabulary (because a deflated notion of description doesn’t provide any sort of rival theory). So deflating “describing” doesn’t alter the fact that Sellars is agreeing with empiricism that a fruitful approach is “sideways-on” – to explain the role of the vocabularies, not to investigate the nature of moral or modal facts.

Tempting for me, and I suspect for McDowell, too. In the lives of natural creatures like us – hence its naturalism.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Deflating “describing”?

A tempting move Deflate “describing”, in order to undermine Sellars’ claim that ethical (and modal) vocabulary is not in the business of “describing reality”. Yes, but . . . What does this do to Sellars’ positive program – his “sideways”, explanatory alternative to metaphysics? It makes no difference to his positive claims about the functions of ethical and modal vocabulary (because a deflated notion of description doesn’t provide any sort of rival theory). So deflating “describing” doesn’t alter the fact that Sellars is agreeing with empiricism that a fruitful approach is “sideways-on” – to explain the role of the vocabularies, not to investigate the nature of moral or modal facts.

Tempting for me, and I suspect for McDowell, too. In the lives of natural creatures like us – hence its naturalism.

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Interrogating “Sellars-lite”

Let’s call this modified Sellarsian view “Sellars-lite” – roughly, it is Sellars minus the descriptive/non-descriptive “Bifurcation Thesis”. Questions:

Does Sellars-lite fall into the traps that McDowell takes to lie in wait for other varieties (especially empiricist varieties) of naturalism, such as reductionism and projectivism? Is Sellars-lite guilty, e.g., of revisionism, idealism or anti-realism?

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Interrogating “Sellars-lite”

Let’s call this modified Sellarsian view “Sellars-lite” – roughly, it is Sellars minus the descriptive/non-descriptive “Bifurcation Thesis”. Questions:

Does Sellars-lite fall into the traps that McDowell takes to lie in wait for other varieties (especially empiricist varieties) of naturalism, such as reductionism and projectivism? Is Sellars-lite guilty, e.g., of revisionism, idealism or anti-realism?

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Interrogating “Sellars-lite”

Let’s call this modified Sellarsian view “Sellars-lite” – roughly, it is Sellars minus the descriptive/non-descriptive “Bifurcation Thesis”. Questions:

Does Sellars-lite fall into the traps that McDowell takes to lie in wait for other varieties (especially empiricist varieties) of naturalism, such as reductionism and projectivism? Is Sellars-lite guilty, e.g., of revisionism, idealism or anti-realism?

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Interrogating “Sellars-lite”

Let’s call this modified Sellarsian view “Sellars-lite” – roughly, it is Sellars minus the descriptive/non-descriptive “Bifurcation Thesis”. Questions:

Does Sellars-lite fall into the traps that McDowell takes to lie in wait for other varieties (especially empiricist varieties) of naturalism, such as reductionism and projectivism? Is Sellars-lite guilty, e.g., of revisionism, idealism or anti-realism?

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Interrogating “Sellars-lite”

Let’s call this modified Sellarsian view “Sellars-lite” – roughly, it is Sellars minus the descriptive/non-descriptive “Bifurcation Thesis”. Questions:

Does Sellars-lite fall into the traps that McDowell takes to lie in wait for other varieties (especially empiricist varieties) of naturalism, such as reductionism and projectivism? Is Sellars-lite guilty, e.g., of revisionism, idealism or anti-realism?

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Interrogating “Sellars-lite”

Let’s call this modified Sellarsian view “Sellars-lite” – roughly, it is Sellars minus the descriptive/non-descriptive “Bifurcation Thesis”. Questions:

Does Sellars-lite fall into the traps that McDowell takes to lie in wait for other varieties (especially empiricist varieties) of naturalism, such as reductionism and projectivism? Is Sellars-lite guilty, e.g., of revisionism, idealism or anti-realism?

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Revisionism?

McDowell on a characteristic philosophical failing:

Ordinary modern philosophy addresses its derivative dualisms in a characteristic way. It takes a stand on one side of a gulf it aims to bridge, accepting without question the way its target dualism conceives the chosen side. Then it constructs something as close as possible to the conception of the other side that figured in the problems, out of materials that are unproblematically available where it has taken its stand. Of course there no longer seems to be a gulf, but the result is bound to look more or less

  • revisionist. ... Phenomenalism is a good example of a philosophical construction with

this traditional shape .... (MW, )

Comments: Sellars-lite isn’t offering a construction of anything – that would be metaphysics, which is a different business entirely. Describing and explaining a linguistic practice – a “language game” – need not be at all revisionary.

Though it might be, in some cases – its insights might incline us to reform or abandon the game in question.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Revisionism?

McDowell on a characteristic philosophical failing:

Ordinary modern philosophy addresses its derivative dualisms in a characteristic way. It takes a stand on one side of a gulf it aims to bridge, accepting without question the way its target dualism conceives the chosen side. Then it constructs something as close as possible to the conception of the other side that figured in the problems, out of materials that are unproblematically available where it has taken its stand. Of course there no longer seems to be a gulf, but the result is bound to look more or less

  • revisionist. ... Phenomenalism is a good example of a philosophical construction with

this traditional shape .... (MW, )

Comments: Sellars-lite isn’t offering a construction of anything – that would be metaphysics, which is a different business entirely. Describing and explaining a linguistic practice – a “language game” – need not be at all revisionary.

Though it might be, in some cases – its insights might incline us to reform or abandon the game in question.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Revisionism?

McDowell on a characteristic philosophical failing:

Ordinary modern philosophy addresses its derivative dualisms in a characteristic way. It takes a stand on one side of a gulf it aims to bridge, accepting without question the way its target dualism conceives the chosen side. Then it constructs something as close as possible to the conception of the other side that figured in the problems, out of materials that are unproblematically available where it has taken its stand. Of course there no longer seems to be a gulf, but the result is bound to look more or less

  • revisionist. ... Phenomenalism is a good example of a philosophical construction with

this traditional shape .... (MW, )

Comments: Sellars-lite isn’t offering a construction of anything – that would be metaphysics, which is a different business entirely. Describing and explaining a linguistic practice – a “language game” – need not be at all revisionary.

Though it might be, in some cases – its insights might incline us to reform or abandon the game in question.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Revisionism?

McDowell on a characteristic philosophical failing:

Ordinary modern philosophy addresses its derivative dualisms in a characteristic way. It takes a stand on one side of a gulf it aims to bridge, accepting without question the way its target dualism conceives the chosen side. Then it constructs something as close as possible to the conception of the other side that figured in the problems, out of materials that are unproblematically available where it has taken its stand. Of course there no longer seems to be a gulf, but the result is bound to look more or less

  • revisionist. ... Phenomenalism is a good example of a philosophical construction with

this traditional shape .... (MW, )

Comments: Sellars-lite isn’t offering a construction of anything – that would be metaphysics, which is a different business entirely. Describing and explaining a linguistic practice – a “language game” – need not be at all revisionary.

Though it might be, in some cases – its insights might incline us to reform or abandon the game in question.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Revisionism?

McDowell on a characteristic philosophical failing:

Ordinary modern philosophy addresses its derivative dualisms in a characteristic way. It takes a stand on one side of a gulf it aims to bridge, accepting without question the way its target dualism conceives the chosen side. Then it constructs something as close as possible to the conception of the other side that figured in the problems, out of materials that are unproblematically available where it has taken its stand. Of course there no longer seems to be a gulf, but the result is bound to look more or less

  • revisionist. ... Phenomenalism is a good example of a philosophical construction with

this traditional shape .... (MW, )

Comments: Sellars-lite isn’t offering a construction of anything – that would be metaphysics, which is a different business entirely. Describing and explaining a linguistic practice – a “language game” – need not be at all revisionary.

Though it might be, in some cases – its insights might incline us to reform or abandon the game in question.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Revisionism?

McDowell on a characteristic philosophical failing:

Ordinary modern philosophy addresses its derivative dualisms in a characteristic way. It takes a stand on one side of a gulf it aims to bridge, accepting without question the way its target dualism conceives the chosen side. Then it constructs something as close as possible to the conception of the other side that figured in the problems, out of materials that are unproblematically available where it has taken its stand. Of course there no longer seems to be a gulf, but the result is bound to look more or less

  • revisionist. ... Phenomenalism is a good example of a philosophical construction with

this traditional shape .... (MW, )

Comments: Sellars-lite isn’t offering a construction of anything – that would be metaphysics, which is a different business entirely. Describing and explaining a linguistic practice – a “language game” – need not be at all revisionary.

Though it might be, in some cases – its insights might incline us to reform or abandon the game in question.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Revisionism?

McDowell on a characteristic philosophical failing:

Ordinary modern philosophy addresses its derivative dualisms in a characteristic way. It takes a stand on one side of a gulf it aims to bridge, accepting without question the way its target dualism conceives the chosen side. Then it constructs something as close as possible to the conception of the other side that figured in the problems, out of materials that are unproblematically available where it has taken its stand. Of course there no longer seems to be a gulf, but the result is bound to look more or less

  • revisionist. ... Phenomenalism is a good example of a philosophical construction with

this traditional shape .... (MW, )

Comments: Sellars-lite isn’t offering a construction of anything – that would be metaphysics, which is a different business entirely. Describing and explaining a linguistic practice – a “language game” – need not be at all revisionary.

Though it might be, in some cases – its insights might incline us to reform or abandon the game in question.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other Sellars and McDowell Deflating “describing” Revision, idealism and anti-realism? Getting sidling right

Revisionism?

McDowell on a characteristic philosophical failing:

Ordinary modern philosophy addresses its derivative dualisms in a characteristic way. It takes a stand on one side of a gulf it aims to bridge, accepting without question the way its target dualism conceives the chosen side. Then it constructs something as close as possible to the conception of the other side that figured in the problems, out of materials that are unproblematically available where it has taken its stand. Of course there no longer seems to be a gulf, but the result is bound to look more or less

  • revisionist. ... Phenomenalism is a good example of a philosophical construction with

this traditional shape .... (MW, )

Comments: Sellars-lite isn’t offering a construction of anything – that would be metaphysics, which is a different business entirely. Describing and explaining a linguistic practice – a “language game” – need not be at all revisionary.

Though it might be, in some cases – its insights might incline us to reform or abandon the game in question.

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Idealism?

If there is nothing to the normative structure within which meaning comes into view except, say, acceptances and rejections of bits of behaviour by the community at large, then how things are—how things can be said to be with a correctness that must partly consist in being faithful to the meanings one would exploit if one said that they are thus and so—cannot be independent of the community’s ratifying the judgements that things are thus and so. (MW, )

Challenge: The view allows no gap between its being the case that P and the community’s ratifying the judgement that P . Response: The view I have in mind isn’t offering truth conditions for P – again, that would be (something like) metaphysics, which is a different business entirely (and depends on the kind of sideways view I reject). There’s no such consequence “inside the language game”, so long as any actual community takes it that it might be mistaken – i.e., stands ready to justify its claims to later or enlarged communities.

Cf. Rorty. The idea of the “final” community again depends on the externalism I reject.

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Idealism?

If there is nothing to the normative structure within which meaning comes into view except, say, acceptances and rejections of bits of behaviour by the community at large, then how things are—how things can be said to be with a correctness that must partly consist in being faithful to the meanings one would exploit if one said that they are thus and so—cannot be independent of the community’s ratifying the judgements that things are thus and so. (MW, )

Challenge: The view allows no gap between its being the case that P and the community’s ratifying the judgement that P . Response: The view I have in mind isn’t offering truth conditions for P – again, that would be (something like) metaphysics, which is a different business entirely (and depends on the kind of sideways view I reject). There’s no such consequence “inside the language game”, so long as any actual community takes it that it might be mistaken – i.e., stands ready to justify its claims to later or enlarged communities.

Cf. Rorty. The idea of the “final” community again depends on the externalism I reject.

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Idealism?

If there is nothing to the normative structure within which meaning comes into view except, say, acceptances and rejections of bits of behaviour by the community at large, then how things are—how things can be said to be with a correctness that must partly consist in being faithful to the meanings one would exploit if one said that they are thus and so—cannot be independent of the community’s ratifying the judgements that things are thus and so. (MW, )

Challenge: The view allows no gap between its being the case that P and the community’s ratifying the judgement that P . Response: The view I have in mind isn’t offering truth conditions for P – again, that would be (something like) metaphysics, which is a different business entirely (and depends on the kind of sideways view I reject). There’s no such consequence “inside the language game”, so long as any actual community takes it that it might be mistaken – i.e., stands ready to justify its claims to later or enlarged communities.

Cf. Rorty. The idea of the “final” community again depends on the externalism I reject.

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Idealism?

If there is nothing to the normative structure within which meaning comes into view except, say, acceptances and rejections of bits of behaviour by the community at large, then how things are—how things can be said to be with a correctness that must partly consist in being faithful to the meanings one would exploit if one said that they are thus and so—cannot be independent of the community’s ratifying the judgements that things are thus and so. (MW, )

Challenge: The view allows no gap between its being the case that P and the community’s ratifying the judgement that P . Response: The view I have in mind isn’t offering truth conditions for P – again, that would be (something like) metaphysics, which is a different business entirely (and depends on the kind of sideways view I reject). There’s no such consequence “inside the language game”, so long as any actual community takes it that it might be mistaken – i.e., stands ready to justify its claims to later or enlarged communities.

Cf. Rorty. The idea of the “final” community again depends on the externalism I reject.

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Idealism?

If there is nothing to the normative structure within which meaning comes into view except, say, acceptances and rejections of bits of behaviour by the community at large, then how things are—how things can be said to be with a correctness that must partly consist in being faithful to the meanings one would exploit if one said that they are thus and so—cannot be independent of the community’s ratifying the judgements that things are thus and so. (MW, )

Challenge: The view allows no gap between its being the case that P and the community’s ratifying the judgement that P . Response: The view I have in mind isn’t offering truth conditions for P – again, that would be (something like) metaphysics, which is a different business entirely (and depends on the kind of sideways view I reject). There’s no such consequence “inside the language game”, so long as any actual community takes it that it might be mistaken – i.e., stands ready to justify its claims to later or enlarged communities.

Cf. Rorty. The idea of the “final” community again depends on the externalism I reject.

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Idealism?

If there is nothing to the normative structure within which meaning comes into view except, say, acceptances and rejections of bits of behaviour by the community at large, then how things are—how things can be said to be with a correctness that must partly consist in being faithful to the meanings one would exploit if one said that they are thus and so—cannot be independent of the community’s ratifying the judgements that things are thus and so. (MW, )

Challenge: The view allows no gap between its being the case that P and the community’s ratifying the judgement that P . Response: The view I have in mind isn’t offering truth conditions for P – again, that would be (something like) metaphysics, which is a different business entirely (and depends on the kind of sideways view I reject). There’s no such consequence “inside the language game”, so long as any actual community takes it that it might be mistaken – i.e., stands ready to justify its claims to later or enlarged communities.

Cf. Rorty. The idea of the “final” community again depends on the externalism I reject.

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Idealism?

If there is nothing to the normative structure within which meaning comes into view except, say, acceptances and rejections of bits of behaviour by the community at large, then how things are—how things can be said to be with a correctness that must partly consist in being faithful to the meanings one would exploit if one said that they are thus and so—cannot be independent of the community’s ratifying the judgements that things are thus and so. (MW, )

Challenge: The view allows no gap between its being the case that P and the community’s ratifying the judgement that P . Response: The view I have in mind isn’t offering truth conditions for P – again, that would be (something like) metaphysics, which is a different business entirely (and depends on the kind of sideways view I reject). There’s no such consequence “inside the language game”, so long as any actual community takes it that it might be mistaken – i.e., stands ready to justify its claims to later or enlarged communities.

Cf. Rorty. The idea of the “final” community again depends on the externalism I reject.

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Idealism?

If there is nothing to the normative structure within which meaning comes into view except, say, acceptances and rejections of bits of behaviour by the community at large, then how things are—how things can be said to be with a correctness that must partly consist in being faithful to the meanings one would exploit if one said that they are thus and so—cannot be independent of the community’s ratifying the judgements that things are thus and so. (MW, )

Challenge: The view allows no gap between its being the case that P and the community’s ratifying the judgement that P . Response: The view I have in mind isn’t offering truth conditions for P – again, that would be (something like) metaphysics, which is a different business entirely (and depends on the kind of sideways view I reject). There’s no such consequence “inside the language game”, so long as any actual community takes it that it might be mistaken – i.e., stands ready to justify its claims to later or enlarged communities.

Cf. Rorty. The idea of the “final” community again depends on the externalism I reject.

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Idealism?

If there is nothing to the normative structure within which meaning comes into view except, say, acceptances and rejections of bits of behaviour by the community at large, then how things are—how things can be said to be with a correctness that must partly consist in being faithful to the meanings one would exploit if one said that they are thus and so—cannot be independent of the community’s ratifying the judgements that things are thus and so. (MW, )

Challenge: The view allows no gap between its being the case that P and the community’s ratifying the judgement that P . Response: The view I have in mind isn’t offering truth conditions for P – again, that would be (something like) metaphysics, which is a different business entirely (and depends on the kind of sideways view I reject). There’s no such consequence “inside the language game”, so long as any actual community takes it that it might be mistaken – i.e., stands ready to justify its claims to later or enlarged communities.

Cf. Rorty. The idea of the “final” community again depends on the externalism I reject.

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Idealism?

If there is nothing to the normative structure within which meaning comes into view except, say, acceptances and rejections of bits of behaviour by the community at large, then how things are—how things can be said to be with a correctness that must partly consist in being faithful to the meanings one would exploit if one said that they are thus and so—cannot be independent of the community’s ratifying the judgements that things are thus and so. (MW, )

Challenge: The view allows no gap between its being the case that P and the community’s ratifying the judgement that P . Response: The view I have in mind isn’t offering truth conditions for P – again, that would be (something like) metaphysics, which is a different business entirely (and depends on the kind of sideways view I reject). There’s no such consequence “inside the language game”, so long as any actual community takes it that it might be mistaken – i.e., stands ready to justify its claims to later or enlarged communities.

Cf. Rorty. The idea of the “final” community again depends on the externalism I reject.

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Antirealism?

Challenge: Isn’t the view committed to anti-realism – to denying that there are really any values, causes, meanings, or whatever? Response: No, that would be metaphysics. Again, it would presuppose an illegitimate “external” standpoint from which to address the question whether there are such things (or whether they are “real”). From “inside” the language game, it is (of course) correct to say that there are such things – and there is nowhere else to stand.

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Antirealism?

Challenge: Isn’t the view committed to anti-realism – to denying that there are really any values, causes, meanings, or whatever? Response: No, that would be metaphysics. Again, it would presuppose an illegitimate “external” standpoint from which to address the question whether there are such things (or whether they are “real”). From “inside” the language game, it is (of course) correct to say that there are such things – and there is nowhere else to stand.

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Antirealism?

Challenge: Isn’t the view committed to anti-realism – to denying that there are really any values, causes, meanings, or whatever? Response: No, that would be metaphysics. Again, it would presuppose an illegitimate “external” standpoint from which to address the question whether there are such things (or whether they are “real”). From “inside” the language game, it is (of course) correct to say that there are such things – and there is nowhere else to stand.

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Antirealism?

Challenge: Isn’t the view committed to anti-realism – to denying that there are really any values, causes, meanings, or whatever? Response: No, that would be metaphysics. Again, it would presuppose an illegitimate “external” standpoint from which to address the question whether there are such things (or whether they are “real”). From “inside” the language game, it is (of course) correct to say that there are such things – and there is nowhere else to stand.

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Antirealism?

Challenge: Isn’t the view committed to anti-realism – to denying that there are really any values, causes, meanings, or whatever? Response: No, that would be metaphysics. Again, it would presuppose an illegitimate “external” standpoint from which to address the question whether there are such things (or whether they are “real”). From “inside” the language game, it is (of course) correct to say that there are such things – and there is nowhere else to stand.

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Antirealism?

Challenge: Isn’t the view committed to anti-realism – to denying that there are really any values, causes, meanings, or whatever? Response: No, that would be metaphysics. Again, it would presuppose an illegitimate “external” standpoint from which to address the question whether there are such things (or whether they are “real”). From “inside” the language game, it is (of course) correct to say that there are such things – and there is nowhere else to stand.

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Antirealism?

Challenge: Isn’t the view committed to anti-realism – to denying that there are really any values, causes, meanings, or whatever? Response: No, that would be metaphysics. Again, it would presuppose an illegitimate “external” standpoint from which to address the question whether there are such things (or whether they are “real”). From “inside” the language game, it is (of course) correct to say that there are such things – and there is nowhere else to stand.

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After Carnap

Influenced by ideas of Ludwig Wittgenstein, the [Vienna] Circle rejected both the thesis of the reality of the external world and the thesis of its irreality ...; the same was the case for both the thesis of the reality of universals ... and the nominalistic thesis that they are not real ... . It is therefore not correct to classify the members of the Vienna Circle as nominalists, as is sometimes done. However, if we look at the basic anti-metaphysical ... attitude of most nominalists ..., then it is, of course, true to say that the Vienna Circle was much closer to those philosophers than to their opponents. [Carnap , ]

Compare McDowell:

Some of these essays can thus be taken to defend a version of what has been called “moral realism”. But that label would risk obscuring the fact that what I urge is more negative than positive; my stance in these essays is better described as “anti-anti-realism” than as “realism”. What I urge is that anti-realist positions such as emotivism and its sophisticated descendants, all the way down to Simon Blackburn’s projectivist quasi-realism, are responses to a misconception of the significance of the obvious fact that ethical, and more generally evaluative, thinking is not science. (MVR, viii).

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After Carnap

Influenced by ideas of Ludwig Wittgenstein, the [Vienna] Circle rejected both the thesis of the reality of the external world and the thesis of its irreality ...; the same was the case for both the thesis of the reality of universals ... and the nominalistic thesis that they are not real ... . It is therefore not correct to classify the members of the Vienna Circle as nominalists, as is sometimes done. However, if we look at the basic anti-metaphysical ... attitude of most nominalists ..., then it is, of course, true to say that the Vienna Circle was much closer to those philosophers than to their opponents. [Carnap , ]

Compare McDowell:

Some of these essays can thus be taken to defend a version of what has been called “moral realism”. But that label would risk obscuring the fact that what I urge is more negative than positive; my stance in these essays is better described as “anti-anti-realism” than as “realism”. What I urge is that anti-realist positions such as emotivism and its sophisticated descendants, all the way down to Simon Blackburn’s projectivist quasi-realism, are responses to a misconception of the significance of the obvious fact that ethical, and more generally evaluative, thinking is not science. (MVR, viii).

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After Carnap

Influenced by ideas of Ludwig Wittgenstein, the [Vienna] Circle rejected both the thesis of the reality of the external world and the thesis of its irreality ...; the same was the case for both the thesis of the reality of universals ... and the nominalistic thesis that they are not real ... . It is therefore not correct to classify the members of the Vienna Circle as nominalists, as is sometimes done. However, if we look at the basic anti-metaphysical ... attitude of most nominalists ..., then it is, of course, true to say that the Vienna Circle was much closer to those philosophers than to their opponents. [Carnap , ]

Compare McDowell:

Some of these essays can thus be taken to defend a version of what has been called “moral realism”. But that label would risk obscuring the fact that what I urge is more negative than positive; my stance in these essays is better described as “anti-anti-realism” than as “realism”. What I urge is that anti-realist positions such as emotivism and its sophisticated descendants, all the way down to Simon Blackburn’s projectivist quasi-realism, are responses to a misconception of the significance of the obvious fact that ethical, and more generally evaluative, thinking is not science. (MVR, viii).

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After Carnap

Influenced by ideas of Ludwig Wittgenstein, the [Vienna] Circle rejected both the thesis of the reality of the external world and the thesis of its irreality ...; the same was the case for both the thesis of the reality of universals ... and the nominalistic thesis that they are not real ... . It is therefore not correct to classify the members of the Vienna Circle as nominalists, as is sometimes done. However, if we look at the basic anti-metaphysical ... attitude of most nominalists ..., then it is, of course, true to say that the Vienna Circle was much closer to those philosophers than to their opponents. [Carnap , ]

Compare McDowell:

Some of these essays can thus be taken to defend a version of what has been called “moral realism”. But that label would risk obscuring the fact that what I urge is more negative than positive; my stance in these essays is better described as “anti-anti-realism” than as “realism”. What I urge is that anti-realist positions such as emotivism and its sophisticated descendants, all the way down to Simon Blackburn’s projectivist quasi-realism, are responses to a misconception of the significance of the obvious fact that ethical, and more generally evaluative, thinking is not science. (MVR, viii).

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After Carnap

Influenced by ideas of Ludwig Wittgenstein, the [Vienna] Circle rejected both the thesis of the reality of the external world and the thesis of its irreality ...; the same was the case for both the thesis of the reality of universals ... and the nominalistic thesis that they are not real ... . It is therefore not correct to classify the members of the Vienna Circle as nominalists, as is sometimes done. However, if we look at the basic anti-metaphysical ... attitude of most nominalists ..., then it is, of course, true to say that the Vienna Circle was much closer to those philosophers than to their opponents. [Carnap , ]

Compare McDowell:

Some of these essays can thus be taken to defend a version of what has been called “moral realism”. But that label would risk obscuring the fact that what I urge is more negative than positive; my stance in these essays is better described as “anti-anti-realism” than as “realism”. What I urge is that anti-realist positions such as emotivism and its sophisticated descendants, all the way down to Simon Blackburn’s projectivist quasi-realism, are responses to a misconception of the significance of the obvious fact that ethical, and more generally evaluative, thinking is not science. (MVR, viii).

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Aside: Is Blackburn really an anti-realist?

“What then is the mistake of describing [quasi-realism] as holding that ‘we talk as if there are necessities when really there are none’? It is the failure to notice that the quasi-realist need allow no sense to what follows the ‘as if’ except one in which it is true. And conversely he need allow no sense to the contrasting proposition in which it in turn is true.” [Blackburn, ‘Morals and modals’.]

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Aside: Is Blackburn really an anti-realist?

“What then is the mistake of describing [quasi-realism] as holding that ‘we talk as if there are necessities when really there are none’? It is the failure to notice that the quasi-realist need allow no sense to what follows the ‘as if’ except one in which it is true. And conversely he need allow no sense to the contrasting proposition in which it in turn is true.” [Blackburn, ‘Morals and modals’.]

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Aside: Is Blackburn really an anti-realist?

“What then is the mistake of describing [quasi-realism] as holding that ‘we talk as if there are necessities when really there are none’? It is the failure to notice that the quasi-realist need allow no sense to what follows the ‘as if’ except one in which it is true. And conversely he need allow no sense to the contrasting proposition in which it in turn is true.” [Blackburn, ‘Morals and modals’.]

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Getting sidling right

Claim: There is an explicitly non-metaphysical option on the table here. (“Sellars-lite”)

It agrees with McDowell in being pluralist, non-reductionist, and non-“second-rate-ist” (e.g., about ethical discourse).

 It disagrees with Sellars (and Blackburn, usually) in rejecting the Bifurcation

Thesis – the idea of a “genuinely descriptive” subset of declarative language.

It is not idealist, or (necessarily) revisionist, or anti-realist. (On the contrary, it is like McDowell’s own view in being anti-anti-realist – though anti-, too!)

 But it insists that some serious philosophy needs to be done “sideways” – in

an anthropological rather than a metaphysical sense – in that the proper focus is on vocabularies, not on their objects.

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Getting sidling right

Claim: There is an explicitly non-metaphysical option on the table here. (“Sellars-lite”)

It agrees with McDowell in being pluralist, non-reductionist, and non-“second-rate-ist” (e.g., about ethical discourse).

 It disagrees with Sellars (and Blackburn, usually) in rejecting the Bifurcation

Thesis – the idea of a “genuinely descriptive” subset of declarative language.

It is not idealist, or (necessarily) revisionist, or anti-realist. (On the contrary, it is like McDowell’s own view in being anti-anti-realist – though anti-, too!)

 But it insists that some serious philosophy needs to be done “sideways” – in

an anthropological rather than a metaphysical sense – in that the proper focus is on vocabularies, not on their objects.

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Getting sidling right

Claim: There is an explicitly non-metaphysical option on the table here. (“Sellars-lite”)

It agrees with McDowell in being pluralist, non-reductionist, and non-“second-rate-ist” (e.g., about ethical discourse).

 It disagrees with Sellars (and Blackburn, usually) in rejecting the Bifurcation

Thesis – the idea of a “genuinely descriptive” subset of declarative language.

It is not idealist, or (necessarily) revisionist, or anti-realist. (On the contrary, it is like McDowell’s own view in being anti-anti-realist – though anti-, too!)

 But it insists that some serious philosophy needs to be done “sideways” – in

an anthropological rather than a metaphysical sense – in that the proper focus is on vocabularies, not on their objects.

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Getting sidling right

Claim: There is an explicitly non-metaphysical option on the table here. (“Sellars-lite”)

It agrees with McDowell in being pluralist, non-reductionist, and non-“second-rate-ist” (e.g., about ethical discourse).

 It disagrees with Sellars (and Blackburn, usually) in rejecting the Bifurcation

Thesis – the idea of a “genuinely descriptive” subset of declarative language.

It is not idealist, or (necessarily) revisionist, or anti-realist. (On the contrary, it is like McDowell’s own view in being anti-anti-realist – though anti-, too!)

 But it insists that some serious philosophy needs to be done “sideways” – in

an anthropological rather than a metaphysical sense – in that the proper focus is on vocabularies, not on their objects.

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Getting sidling right

Claim: There is an explicitly non-metaphysical option on the table here. (“Sellars-lite”)

It agrees with McDowell in being pluralist, non-reductionist, and non-“second-rate-ist” (e.g., about ethical discourse).

 It disagrees with Sellars (and Blackburn, usually) in rejecting the Bifurcation

Thesis – the idea of a “genuinely descriptive” subset of declarative language.

It is not idealist, or (necessarily) revisionist, or anti-realist. (On the contrary, it is like McDowell’s own view in being anti-anti-realist – though anti-, too!)

 But it insists that some serious philosophy needs to be done “sideways” – in

an anthropological rather than a metaphysical sense – in that the proper focus is on vocabularies, not on their objects.

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Getting sidling right

Claim: There is an explicitly non-metaphysical option on the table here. (“Sellars-lite”)

It agrees with McDowell in being pluralist, non-reductionist, and non-“second-rate-ist” (e.g., about ethical discourse).

 It disagrees with Sellars (and Blackburn, usually) in rejecting the Bifurcation

Thesis – the idea of a “genuinely descriptive” subset of declarative language.

It is not idealist, or (necessarily) revisionist, or anti-realist. (On the contrary, it is like McDowell’s own view in being anti-anti-realist – though anti-, too!)

 But it insists that some serious philosophy needs to be done “sideways” – in

an anthropological rather than a metaphysical sense – in that the proper focus is on vocabularies, not on their objects.

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Getting sidling right

Claim: There is an explicitly non-metaphysical option on the table here. (“Sellars-lite”)

It agrees with McDowell in being pluralist, non-reductionist, and non-“second-rate-ist” (e.g., about ethical discourse).

 It disagrees with Sellars (and Blackburn, usually) in rejecting the Bifurcation

Thesis – the idea of a “genuinely descriptive” subset of declarative language.

It is not idealist, or (necessarily) revisionist, or anti-realist. (On the contrary, it is like McDowell’s own view in being anti-anti-realist – though anti-, too!)

 But it insists that some serious philosophy needs to be done “sideways” – in

an anthropological rather than a metaphysical sense – in that the proper focus is on vocabularies, not on their objects.

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Getting sidling right

Claim: There is an explicitly non-metaphysical option on the table here. (“Sellars-lite”)

It agrees with McDowell in being pluralist, non-reductionist, and non-“second-rate-ist” (e.g., about ethical discourse).

 It disagrees with Sellars (and Blackburn, usually) in rejecting the Bifurcation

Thesis – the idea of a “genuinely descriptive” subset of declarative language.

It is not idealist, or (necessarily) revisionist, or anti-realist. (On the contrary, it is like McDowell’s own view in being anti-anti-realist – though anti-, too!)

 But it insists that some serious philosophy needs to be done “sideways” – in

an anthropological rather than a metaphysical sense – in that the proper focus is on vocabularies, not on their objects.

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Getting sidling right

Claim: There is an explicitly non-metaphysical option on the table here. (“Sellars-lite”)

It agrees with McDowell in being pluralist, non-reductionist, and non-“second-rate-ist” (e.g., about ethical discourse).

 It disagrees with Sellars (and Blackburn, usually) in rejecting the Bifurcation

Thesis – the idea of a “genuinely descriptive” subset of declarative language.

It is not idealist, or (necessarily) revisionist, or anti-realist. (On the contrary, it is like McDowell’s own view in being anti-anti-realist – though anti-, too!)

 But it insists that some serious philosophy needs to be done “sideways” – in

an anthropological rather than a metaphysical sense – in that the proper focus is on vocabularies, not on their objects.

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 Introduction  Sidling on one hand  Idling on the other hand

How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

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A quietist defence of “rampant platonism”?

Imagine this opponent (the “hyperquietist”, perhaps):

“i am what mcdowell terms a ‘rampant platonist’. however, i prefer not to call myself ‘rampant’. when it comes to philosophical theory, i am a quietist – a mouse, not a lion! and i prefer not to call myself a ‘platonist’, because that suggests a metaphysical viewpoint, and again, i am a quietist. so i prefer to call myself simply a commonsense pluralist. i don’t see any need for mcdowell’s ‘third way’ – to me, that smacks of the philosophical excesses i have left behind.”

“apologies for the bold font.”

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A quietist defence of “rampant platonism”?

Imagine this opponent (the “hyperquietist”, perhaps):

“i am what mcdowell terms a ‘rampant platonist’. however, i prefer not to call myself ‘rampant’. when it comes to philosophical theory, i am a quietist – a mouse, not a lion! and i prefer not to call myself a ‘platonist’, because that suggests a metaphysical viewpoint, and again, i am a quietist. so i prefer to call myself simply a commonsense pluralist. i don’t see any need for mcdowell’s ‘third way’ – to me, that smacks of the philosophical excesses i have left behind.”

“apologies for the bold font.”

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

A quietist defence of “rampant platonism”?

Imagine this opponent (the “hyperquietist”, perhaps):

“i am what mcdowell terms a ‘rampant platonist’. however, i prefer not to call myself ‘rampant’. when it comes to philosophical theory, i am a quietist – a mouse, not a lion! and i prefer not to call myself a ‘platonist’, because that suggests a metaphysical viewpoint, and again, i am a quietist. so i prefer to call myself simply a commonsense pluralist. i don’t see any need for mcdowell’s ‘third way’ – to me, that smacks of the philosophical excesses i have left behind.”

“apologies for the bold font.”

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

A quietist defence of “rampant platonism”?

Imagine this opponent (the “hyperquietist”, perhaps):

“i am what mcdowell terms a ‘rampant platonist’. however, i prefer not to call myself ‘rampant’. when it comes to philosophical theory, i am a quietist – a mouse, not a lion! and i prefer not to call myself a ‘platonist’, because that suggests a metaphysical viewpoint, and again, i am a quietist. so i prefer to call myself simply a commonsense pluralist. i don’t see any need for mcdowell’s ‘third way’ – to me, that smacks of the philosophical excesses i have left behind.”

“apologies for the bold font.”

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A quietist defence of “rampant platonism”?

Imagine this opponent (the “hyperquietist”, perhaps):

“i am what mcdowell terms a ‘rampant platonist’. however, i prefer not to call myself ‘rampant’. when it comes to philosophical theory, i am a quietist – a mouse, not a lion! and i prefer not to call myself a ‘platonist’, because that suggests a metaphysical viewpoint, and again, i am a quietist. so i prefer to call myself simply a commonsense pluralist. i don’t see any need for mcdowell’s ‘third way’ – to me, that smacks of the philosophical excesses i have left behind.”

“apologies for the bold font.”

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A quietist defence of “rampant platonism”?

Imagine this opponent (the “hyperquietist”, perhaps):

“i am what mcdowell terms a ‘rampant platonist’. however, i prefer not to call myself ‘rampant’. when it comes to philosophical theory, i am a quietist – a mouse, not a lion! and i prefer not to call myself a ‘platonist’, because that suggests a metaphysical viewpoint, and again, i am a quietist. so i prefer to call myself simply a commonsense pluralist. i don’t see any need for mcdowell’s ‘third way’ – to me, that smacks of the philosophical excesses i have left behind.”

“apologies for the bold font.”

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

A quietist defence of “rampant platonism”?

Imagine this opponent (the “hyperquietist”, perhaps):

“i am what mcdowell terms a ‘rampant platonist’. however, i prefer not to call myself ‘rampant’. when it comes to philosophical theory, i am a quietist – a mouse, not a lion! and i prefer not to call myself a ‘platonist’, because that suggests a metaphysical viewpoint, and again, i am a quietist. so i prefer to call myself simply a commonsense pluralist. i don’t see any need for mcdowell’s ‘third way’ – to me, that smacks of the philosophical excesses i have left behind.”

“apologies for the bold font.”

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

A quietist defence of “rampant platonism”?

Imagine this opponent (the “hyperquietist”, perhaps):

“i am what mcdowell terms a ‘rampant platonist’. however, i prefer not to call myself ‘rampant’. when it comes to philosophical theory, i am a quietist – a mouse, not a lion! and i prefer not to call myself a ‘platonist’, because that suggests a metaphysical viewpoint, and again, i am a quietist. so i prefer to call myself simply a commonsense pluralist. i don’t see any need for mcdowell’s ‘third way’ – to me, that smacks of the philosophical excesses i have left behind.”

“apologies for the bold font.”

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

A quietist defence of “rampant platonism”?

Imagine this opponent (the “hyperquietist”, perhaps):

“i am what mcdowell terms a ‘rampant platonist’. however, i prefer not to call myself ‘rampant’. when it comes to philosophical theory, i am a quietist – a mouse, not a lion! and i prefer not to call myself a ‘platonist’, because that suggests a metaphysical viewpoint, and again, i am a quietist. so i prefer to call myself simply a commonsense pluralist. i don’t see any need for mcdowell’s ‘third way’ – to me, that smacks of the philosophical excesses i have left behind.”

“apologies for the bold font.”

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

A quietist defence of “rampant platonism”?

Imagine this opponent (the “hyperquietist”, perhaps):

“i am what mcdowell terms a ‘rampant platonist’. however, i prefer not to call myself ‘rampant’. when it comes to philosophical theory, i am a quietist – a mouse, not a lion! and i prefer not to call myself a ‘platonist’, because that suggests a metaphysical viewpoint, and again, i am a quietist. so i prefer to call myself simply a commonsense pluralist. i don’t see any need for mcdowell’s ‘third way’ – to me, that smacks of the philosophical excesses i have left behind.”

The issue: What is this mouse missing, by McDowell’s lights?

“apologies for the bold font.”

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

A quietist defence of “rampant platonism”?

Imagine this opponent (the “hyperquietist”, perhaps):

“i am what mcdowell terms a ‘rampant platonist’. however, i prefer not to call myself ‘rampant’. when it comes to philosophical theory, i am a quietist – a mouse, not a lion! and i prefer not to call myself a ‘platonist’, because that suggests a metaphysical viewpoint, and again, i am a quietist. so i prefer to call myself simply a commonsense pluralist. i don’t see any need for mcdowell’s ‘third way’ – to me, that smacks of the philosophical excesses i have left behind.”

The issue: What is this mouse missing, by McDowell’s lights?

“apologies for the bold font.”

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Contingency and plurality

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Contingency and plurality

Consider the facts on display in this Sellarsian scene:

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Contingency and plurality

Consider the facts on display in this Sellarsian scene:

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Contingency and plurality

Consider the facts on display in this Sellarsian scene:

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What the mouse is missing

Consider, in particular, the contingencies underlying our sensitivity to the facts displayed for our attention in the lower part of the scene . . .

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What the mouse is missing

Consider, in particular, the contingencies underlying our sensitivity to the facts displayed for our attention in the lower part of the scene . . .

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What the mouse is missing

Consider, in particular, the contingencies underlying our sensitivity to the facts displayed for our attention in the lower part of the scene . . .

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What the mouse is missing

Consider, in particular, the contingencies underlying our sensitivity to the facts displayed for our attention in the lower part of the scene . . .about what tie goes well with what shirt. These facts are second nature (let’s suppose) to well-brought-up Italians – but not, presumably, to well-brought-up members of any conceivable community.

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What the mouse is missing

Consider, in particular, the contingencies underlying our sensitivity to the facts displayed for our attention in the lower part of the scene . . .about what tie goes well with what shirt. These facts are second nature (let’s suppose) to well-brought-up Italians – but not, presumably, to well-brought-up members of any conceivable community.

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What the mouse is missing

Consider, in particular, the contingencies underlying our sensitivity to the facts displayed for our attention in the lower part of the scene . . .about what tie goes well with what shirt. These facts are second nature (let’s suppose) to well-brought-up Italians – but not, presumably, to well-brought-up members of any conceivable community.

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What the mouse is missing

Consider, in particular, the contingencies underlying our sensitivity to the facts displayed for our attention in the lower part of the scene . . .about what tie goes well with what shirt. These facts are second nature (let’s suppose) to well-brought-up Italians – but not, presumably, to well-brought-up members of any conceivable community.

[Laurence Pierce, “Man with Loud Tie”] Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /

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What the mouse is missing

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What the mouse is missing

The hyperquietist seems to lack resources to distinguish between this kind of contingency and that involved, say, in the fact that we might not have looked at the far side

  • f the moon.

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What the mouse is missing

The hyperquietist seems to lack resources to distinguish between this kind of contingency and that involved, say, in the fact that we might not have looked at the far side

  • f the moon.

The facts as they would appear from the standpoint of any possible observer – no matter what its nature, circumstances and upbringing – must all be thought of as simply “out there”, in the same flat-footed sense.

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What the mouse is missing

The hyperquietist seems to lack resources to distinguish between this kind of contingency and that involved, say, in the fact that we might not have looked at the far side

  • f the moon.

The facts as they would appear from the standpoint of any possible observer – no matter what its nature, circumstances and upbringing – must all be thought of as simply “out there”, in the same flat-footed sense.

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Handling contingency

McDowell on the subjectivity of some subject matters:

Values are not brutely there—not there independently of our sensibility—any more than colours are: though, as with colours, this does not prevent us from supposing that they are there independently of any particular apparent experience of them. (MVR, )

Claim: If we want to combine this thought with a recognition that our sensibilities might well have been different – and if want to avoid both an implausible idealism and the kind of flat-footed pluralism that lay in wait for the hyperquietist – then we need to put the variability at the level of language games (and the contingencies on which they depend), not in metaphysical terms. In other words, we need the modest (non-metaphysical) “sideways” perspective of Sellars-lite.

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Handling contingency

McDowell on the subjectivity of some subject matters:

Values are not brutely there—not there independently of our sensibility—any more than colours are: though, as with colours, this does not prevent us from supposing that they are there independently of any particular apparent experience of them. (MVR, )

Claim: If we want to combine this thought with a recognition that our sensibilities might well have been different – and if want to avoid both an implausible idealism and the kind of flat-footed pluralism that lay in wait for the hyperquietist – then we need to put the variability at the level of language games (and the contingencies on which they depend), not in metaphysical terms. In other words, we need the modest (non-metaphysical) “sideways” perspective of Sellars-lite.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

Handling contingency

McDowell on the subjectivity of some subject matters:

Values are not brutely there—not there independently of our sensibility—any more than colours are: though, as with colours, this does not prevent us from supposing that they are there independently of any particular apparent experience of them. (MVR, )

Claim: If we want to combine this thought with a recognition that our sensibilities might well have been different – and if want to avoid both an implausible idealism and the kind of flat-footed pluralism that lay in wait for the hyperquietist – then we need to put the variability at the level of language games (and the contingencies on which they depend), not in metaphysical terms. In other words, we need the modest (non-metaphysical) “sideways” perspective of Sellars-lite.

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Handling contingency

McDowell on the subjectivity of some subject matters:

Values are not brutely there—not there independently of our sensibility—any more than colours are: though, as with colours, this does not prevent us from supposing that they are there independently of any particular apparent experience of them. (MVR, )

Claim: If we want to combine this thought with a recognition that our sensibilities might well have been different – and if want to avoid both an implausible idealism and the kind of flat-footed pluralism that lay in wait for the hyperquietist – then we need to put the variability at the level of language games (and the contingencies on which they depend), not in metaphysical terms. In other words, we need the modest (non-metaphysical) “sideways” perspective of Sellars-lite.

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Handling contingency

McDowell on the subjectivity of some subject matters:

Values are not brutely there—not there independently of our sensibility—any more than colours are: though, as with colours, this does not prevent us from supposing that they are there independently of any particular apparent experience of them. (MVR, )

Claim: If we want to combine this thought with a recognition that our sensibilities might well have been different – and if want to avoid both an implausible idealism and the kind of flat-footed pluralism that lay in wait for the hyperquietist – then we need to put the variability at the level of language games (and the contingencies on which they depend), not in metaphysical terms. In other words, we need the modest (non-metaphysical) “sideways” perspective of Sellars-lite.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

Handling contingency

McDowell on the subjectivity of some subject matters:

Values are not brutely there—not there independently of our sensibility—any more than colours are: though, as with colours, this does not prevent us from supposing that they are there independently of any particular apparent experience of them. (MVR, )

Claim: If we want to combine this thought with a recognition that our sensibilities might well have been different – and if want to avoid both an implausible idealism and the kind of flat-footed pluralism that lay in wait for the hyperquietist – then we need to put the variability at the level of language games (and the contingencies on which they depend), not in metaphysical terms. In other words, we need the modest (non-metaphysical) “sideways” perspective of Sellars-lite.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

Handling contingency

McDowell on the subjectivity of some subject matters:

Values are not brutely there—not there independently of our sensibility—any more than colours are: though, as with colours, this does not prevent us from supposing that they are there independently of any particular apparent experience of them. (MVR, )

Claim: If we want to combine this thought with a recognition that our sensibilities might well have been different – and if want to avoid both an implausible idealism and the kind of flat-footed pluralism that lay in wait for the hyperquietist – then we need to put the variability at the level of language games (and the contingencies on which they depend), not in metaphysical terms. In other words, we need the modest (non-metaphysical) “sideways” perspective of Sellars-lite.

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Handling contingency

McDowell on the subjectivity of some subject matters:

Values are not brutely there—not there independently of our sensibility—any more than colours are: though, as with colours, this does not prevent us from supposing that they are there independently of any particular apparent experience of them. (MVR, )

Claim: If we want to combine this thought with a recognition that our sensibilities might well have been different – and if want to avoid both an implausible idealism and the kind of flat-footed pluralism that lay in wait for the hyperquietist – then we need to put the variability at the level of language games (and the contingencies on which they depend), not in metaphysical terms. In other words, we need the modest (non-metaphysical) “sideways” perspective of Sellars-lite.

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Is McDowell Sellars-lite?

McDowell on the suggestion that his view is a form of projectivism:

Can a projectivist claim that the position I have outlined is at best a notational variant, perhaps an inferior notational variant, of his own position? It would be inferior if, in eschewing the projectivist metaphysical framework, it obscured some important truth. But what truth would that be? (MVR, )

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Is McDowell Sellars-lite?

McDowell on the suggestion that his view is a form of projectivism:

Can a projectivist claim that the position I have outlined is at best a notational variant, perhaps an inferior notational variant, of his own position? It would be inferior if, in eschewing the projectivist metaphysical framework, it obscured some important truth. But what truth would that be? (MVR, )

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Is McDowell Sellars-lite?

McDowell on the suggestion that his view is a form of projectivism:

Can a projectivist claim that the position I have outlined is at best a notational variant, perhaps an inferior notational variant, of his own position? It would be inferior if, in eschewing the projectivist metaphysical framework, it obscured some important truth. But what truth would that be? (MVR, )

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Is McDowell Sellars-lite?

McDowell on the suggestion that his view is a form of projectivism:

Can a projectivist [Sellars-lite] claim that the position I have outlined is at best a notational variant, perhaps an inferior notational variant, of his own position? It would be inferior if, in eschewing [Sellars-lite’s] metaphysical framework, it obscured some important truth. But what truth would that be? (MVR, )

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Is McDowell Sellars-lite?

McDowell on the suggestion that his view is a form of projectivism:

Can a projectivist [Sellars-lite] claim that the position I have outlined is at best a notational variant, perhaps an inferior notational variant, of his own position? It would be inferior if, in eschewing [Sellars-lite’s] metaphysical framework, it obscured some important truth. But what truth would that be? (MVR, )

Proposal

The ‘important truth’ isn’t a matter of a difference in metaphysical framework, for Sellars-lite shares McDowell’s quietism and pluralism about that. It is about the need to “go sideways” in a non-metaphysical spirit – a need perhaps obscured for McDowell by his concern with opponents who do “go sideways” in a metaphysical sense.

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Is McDowell Sellars-lite?

McDowell on the suggestion that his view is a form of projectivism:

Can a projectivist [Sellars-lite] claim that the position I have outlined is at best a notational variant, perhaps an inferior notational variant, of his own position? It would be inferior if, in eschewing [Sellars-lite’s] metaphysical framework, it obscured some important truth. But what truth would that be? (MVR, )

Proposal

The ‘important truth’ isn’t a matter of a difference in metaphysical framework, for Sellars-lite shares McDowell’s quietism and pluralism about that. It is about the need to “go sideways” in a non-metaphysical spirit – a need perhaps obscured for McDowell by his concern with opponents who do “go sideways” in a metaphysical sense.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

Is McDowell Sellars-lite?

McDowell on the suggestion that his view is a form of projectivism:

Can a projectivist [Sellars-lite] claim that the position I have outlined is at best a notational variant, perhaps an inferior notational variant, of his own position? It would be inferior if, in eschewing [Sellars-lite’s] metaphysical framework, it obscured some important truth. But what truth would that be? (MVR, )

Proposal

The ‘important truth’ isn’t a matter of a difference in metaphysical framework, for Sellars-lite shares McDowell’s quietism and pluralism about that. It is about the need to “go sideways” in a non-metaphysical spirit – a need perhaps obscured for McDowell by his concern with opponents who do “go sideways” in a metaphysical sense.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

Is McDowell Sellars-lite?

McDowell on the suggestion that his view is a form of projectivism:

Can a projectivist [Sellars-lite] claim that the position I have outlined is at best a notational variant, perhaps an inferior notational variant, of his own position? It would be inferior if, in eschewing [Sellars-lite’s] metaphysical framework, it obscured some important truth. But what truth would that be? (MVR, )

Proposal

The ‘important truth’ isn’t a matter of a difference in metaphysical framework, for Sellars-lite shares McDowell’s quietism and pluralism about that. It is about the need to “go sideways” in a non-metaphysical spirit – a need perhaps obscured for McDowell by his concern with opponents who do “go sideways” in a metaphysical sense.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) Our issue Is the path to philosophical peace to find a better metaphysics? Or to renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or blanket quietism)? My answer To renounce metaphysics in favour of another mode of philosophical enquiry ... ... which is significantly sideways.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) Our issue Is the path to philosophical peace to find a better metaphysics? Or to renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or blanket quietism)? My answer To renounce metaphysics in favour of another mode of philosophical enquiry ... ... which is significantly sideways.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) Our issue Is the path to philosophical peace to find a better metaphysics? Or to renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or blanket quietism)? My answer To renounce metaphysics in favour of another mode of philosophical enquiry ... ... which is significantly sideways.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) Our issue Is the path to philosophical peace to find a better metaphysics? Or to renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or blanket quietism)? My answer To renounce metaphysics in favour of another mode of philosophical enquiry ... ... which is significantly sideways.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) Our issue Is the path to philosophical peace to find a better metaphysics? Or to renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or blanket quietism)? My answer To renounce metaphysics in favour of another mode of philosophical enquiry ... ... which is significantly sideways.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) Our issue Is the path to philosophical peace to find a better metaphysics? Or to renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or blanket quietism)? My answer To renounce metaphysics in favour of another mode of philosophical enquiry ... ... which is significantly sideways.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) Our issue Is the path to philosophical peace to find a better metaphysics? Or to renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or blanket quietism)? My answer To renounce metaphysics in favour of another mode of philosophical enquiry ... ... which is significantly sideways.

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Introduction Sidling on one hand Idling on the other How idle can we be? Contingency and plurality McDowell = Sellars-lite? Conclusion

Good metaphysics or no metaphysics?

‘Leaning Tower with Pentagram’, Groom, TX.

“[N]othing but bad metaphysics suggests that the standards in ethics must somehow be constructed out of facts of disenchanted nature.” (MVR, ) Our issue Is the path to philosophical peace to find a better metaphysics? Or to renounce metaphysics altogether, in favour of some other mode of philosophical enquiry (or blanket quietism)? My answer To renounce metaphysics in favour of another mode of philosophical enquiry ... ... which is significantly sideways.

Huw Price Idling & Sidling Towards Philosophical Peace /