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A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Birth of the Industrial Haskell Group Duncan Coutts CUFP 2009 A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Outline A


  1. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Birth of the Industrial Haskell Group Duncan Coutts CUFP 2009

  2. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Outline A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development

  3. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Economics of programming languages The economics drives us to shared languages and implementations. • Private languages are a private cost • Shared languages: • more public resources • more skilled people available • Shared implementations: • share past development costs • opportunity to share future development costs

  4. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development The more we do share, the more we can share The more we share already, the greater the opportunity to share costs of new development • Compilers • Standard libraries • Tools (profiling, testing, etc)

  5. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Models of programming language development • Proprietary product • F# • Open, central commercial vendor • Erlang • Open, no central vendor • Haskell • ML • Lisp

  6. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Funding programming language development Who do you pay? • do it in-house • central vendor • consultants • grad students... How do we share costs?

  7. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Open community languages Open community languages have particular advantages and disadvantages • Loads of stuff for free • Choice of consultants • Academics and open source hackers can have different priorities and timescales • Harder to share future development costs We think a consortium model is a good match for the open languages.

  8. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Outline A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development

  9. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Why start a consortium now? Indicators of commercial use pointing upwards: • Job postings • Informal discussions • CUFP attendance • Mailing list traffic, downloads, feature request tickets

  10. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Planning discussions Discussed it with Galois after CUFP last year • Who does the organisation? • Issue of cost and expected number of members

  11. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development The Caml Consortium • Aimed for around 20 members • Cost: e 3k– e 10k for 12 months ($4k–$14k) • Provides OCaml & libs under 4-clause BSD license • Started with 4 members in 2002, 7 members by 2008 • Initially unable to fund full-time development • Now has 10 members Our analysis: not charging enough, aiming for too many members

  12. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development The Industrial Haskell Group • Aim initially for 5 members • Cost £6k for 6 months ($10k) • No special license

  13. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Starting a venture in a recession... CUFP 2008 Talking to IHG announced potential members Doom and gloom “Great idea! Call us back in a year.”

  14. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Birth of the IHG • Started in March 2009 with 3 members • Including Galois and Amgen • Funded 2 man-months of development work

  15. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development How we decide what to do • Internal mailing list • Collect wish lists • Look for overlaps and high priority tasks • Collectively agree on the tasks

  16. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development What IHG members asked for • Short & medium term projects • Feature additions • System integration • Development tools • Not bug fixes • Not releases • Not language or core compiler issues

  17. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development What the IHG has funded so far • Dynamic libraries on Linux • Ongoing work for dynamic libraries on Windows • Allow building GHC without GMP lib • Cabal improvement to reduce build times by increased sharing

  18. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Reflections on the process • “Individual pots” have not been used much • We would add our own suggestions for projects

  19. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Future aims • Expand membership • Add price-point for small companies • Consider “sponsorship” level membership

  20. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Outline A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development

  21. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development What should consortia fund? • Whatever the members want! • Short and medium term projects of direct benefit: adding features • Fixing bugs, testing, performance, making releases • Development infrastructure

  22. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Investing in infrastructure A modest investment in development infrastructure... Potentially large benefit • more open reusable code • higher quality (code, tests, docs) Mechanism: help the open community to do more

  23. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development A quick poll...

  24. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Benefits of a community language Hackage — Haskell’s package archive • 1,500+ packages • 400+ developers • Growing steadily • Mostly uniform packaging Hackage contains • Robust reusable libraries and tools • Latest academic research • Plenty of chaff

  25. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development The Hackage example For example, extend Hackage by publishing • Build results • Test results • Test coverage • Quality metrics Benefits • Distinguish the good packages • Encourage quality Virtuous cycle between commercial and other users

  26. A shared infrastructure Establishing a consortium An idea for shared development Summary • Opportunities to share development costs • Consortium model for open languages • Invest in development infrastructure

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