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Aisling O’ Dwyer Guidance Counsellor

Options after the Leaving Certificate

• Work
• Year Out
• Apprenticeships
• Further Education (Post Leaving Certificate

courses)

• Third Level Education

Continuing your education after the Leaving Certificate.

The Options

• Post Leaving Certificate Course -1 or 2 years

CAO

• Level 6 Certificate 2 years
• Level 7 Ordinary Degree 3 years
• Level 8 Honours Degree 3/4 years

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR FURTHER EDUCATION

• Level 8 – Honours Degrees
• 3/4 years study
• Min. of 2 H5 and 4 O6/H7

(TCD & a small no. of level 8 courses Min 3 H5 and 3 O6/H7)

• Level 7 – Ordinary Degrees
• 3 years study
• Min. 5 O6/H7
• Level 6 – Higher Certificate
• 2 years study
• Min 5 O6/H7
• Post Leaving Certificate Courses
• 1 year study
• Min. 5 passes in H/O/F

Choosing Subjects

 Choosing 5th year subjects requires Research, Reflection and

Decision.

 Students need to consider the following:

Ability/Interests Careers Relevance Keeping options open Seek advice

• Choose subjects you have enjoyed to date and that

you do well in

• Never pick subjects that your friends are doing – be true

to yourself and your interests

• Subject choice should not depend on what teacher is

teaching a certain subject at Leaving Cert Level.

How many subjects?

• Students will be required to take 7 subjects.
• The results from their best 6 subjects will be totaled to give them a

maximum of 625 points. (This includes the 25 bonus points awarded for Honours Maths)

• Students are required to take:
• Irish
• English
• Maths
• A third Language is strongly recommended….. Why?

Irish

• H4 in Irish is required for the following courses:
• Primary Teaching
• Irish – Early and Modern (TCD)
• Home Economics and Irish Second Level Teaching (St. Angela’s)
• Commerce and Irish (UCD)
• Commerce and Irish (UCC)
• Gno agus Cumarsaid (NUIG)

NUI Colleges

that have a third language requirement

• NUIG
• UCC
• NUI Maynooth
• UCD
• Shannon College of Hotel Management
• St. Angela’s College Sligo
• RCSI (Royal College of Surgeons Ireland)

3rd Language

• There are currently 171 Courses that require a third language.
• There are however over 1300 Courses that do not require a third

language.

• Many of the science, engineering and nursing courses in the NUI

Colleges have removed the third language requirement – however it is still a requirement for Medicine and Pharmacy and the Health Sciences such as Occupational Therapy.

• If a student has an exemption from a third language e.g. dyslexia

and a report then the exemption carries over once the college has been informed.

• Advise you to look at the following website to check out in

greater detail.

• If you want to find out more about the supports provided in

college for a student with dyslexia and a third language exemption:

• www.accesscollege.ie

No third language requirement:

• Entry to TCD, UL or DCU apart from specific

courses which may have a language component e.g. Business and Language UL or European Studies UL or Applied Languages UCD.

• It is not required for entry to Institutes of

Technology or DIT unless it is part of the area of study.

• Gardai, Nursing, Apprenticeships.
• Most PLC Courses.

Languages (French / German)

• H3 in the appropriate language for:
• Applied languages, Languages and Computing, Computer Systems

and French (UL).

• Law and French (UCD)
• Commerce with French (NUIG)
• Business Studies and Chinese / Japanese (2 languages at H3 – Not

English (TCD)

• H4 in the appropriate language for:
• Business and Languages, Computers, Linguistics and a language,

European Studies, Law and French / German, Information and Communication Technology, Languages, Clinical Speech (or Irish) (TCD)

• International Business, Computers and Language (IT Carlow)

• Languages and Cultural Studies, Business and Languages,

Mechanical Engineering and German, Irish Studies, European Studies (UL)

• European Studies, Languages and Cultural Studies (or Irish), Law and

languages, Commerce (European) with a language (UCC)

• Computational linguistics, European Electronic Systems, European

Business and French / German / Spanish, International Marketing, Physics and a Language, Chemistry and French / German (DCU)

• Commerce International (UCD)
• Management, Engineering and a language, Commerce with

language (NUIG)

• Applied languages (DCU)
• European Business and a language (NCI)

• Language and Business Dip. Marketing, Media Arts (or Irish),

Tourism marketing, Journalism and a language (DIT)

• French, German/German and Historical Studies (NUI Maynooth)
• Business Studies in Languages and Marketing, Business Studies

with French (WIT)

• Applied Languages for communication and Administration (IT

Tallaght)

• Software Development and French / German (CIT).

What 3 to choose from the available 14 subjects?

Subjects

French German Chemistry Physics Biology Agricultural Science Accounting Business Home Economics DCG History Geography Art Music

CHOSEN 4 1. 2. 3. 4.

Creative Skills: If you enjoy reading, writing, story telling etc. – English, History. Mathematical Skills – Good at logical thinking, puzzles and numbers – HL Maths, Physics, Accounting. Scientific Skills – Enjoy analysing information and are good at memorising information – Chemistry, Biology, Physics, Agricultural Science, Geography. Practical Skills – Enjoy making things, doing things, knowing how things work – Home Economics, Design & Communication Graphics.

Language Skills – Easily grasp languages and enjoy learning about different cultures – Irish, French, German. Social Skills – Enjoy learning about society past and present and the world around you – History, Home Economics. Business Studies – Enjoy learning about business, money and the economy – Business, Accounting. Artistic Skills – Talented in the arts, enjoy performing and/or using your creativity – Art, Music, Design & Communication Graphics.

Essential Subjects There are some myths about the necessity of having certain subjects for certain

• careers. Contrary to popular

belief:- Engineer / Architect : You do NOT need Technical Drawing Accountant : You do NOT need Business or Accounting

Subject Essential For

French / German 170+ Courses require a 3rd Language (see www.qualifax.ie for details) Chemistry

• A Science subject is necessary for over 140 courses
• 2 Science courses are essential for some courses

Essential for 7 courses Physics Essential for 1 course Biology Essential for 2 courses Agricultural Science Not Essential Accounting Essential for 1 course Business Not Essential Home Economics Not Essential DCG Not Essential History Not Essential Geography Not Essential Art Essential for 3 courses Music Essential for 1 course Religious Education Not Essential

SCIENCE SUBJECTS

• TWO SCIENCE SUBJECTS:
• For some science based courses at TCD e.g.Physiotherapy, Pharmacy,

Medicine, Dental Science, Science, Human Genetics(in some cases they require Higher Level)

• Medicine and Dentistry (H4 in Chemistry and H4 in Physics or Biology)

(UCC)

• H4 in a Science Subject for:
• Medicine, Theoretical Physics (h4 in Physics) (TCD)
• Medicine (or Maths), Physiotherapy (RCSI)
• Medicine (Physics and/or Chemistry) (UCD)
• Medical and Health Science (UCC)

• H5 in Chemistry
• Veterinary (UCD)
• Pharmacy (TCD)
• Medicine, Dentistry(UCD)
• Human Nutrition and Dietetics, Medical Laboratory Science (DIT)
• NO SCIENCE REQUIREMENT
• To study any of the science or Engineering Certificates or Diploma

courses at the Institutes of Technology or for Arts, Commerce, Business Studies, Social Science, Law etc at Universities

• It is not required for most PLC Courses or for most apprenticeships.

For your sixth and seventh subjects it is your chance to choose subjects that you will enjoy studying. You will be required to acquire points to gain entry and to make this possible and achievable choose subjects that you enjoy and that you find interesting.

Final 2/3 subjects….Keep points in mind…..

Leaving Certificate Grade Higher Paper Leaving Certificate Grade Lower Paper

H1(90<100) 100 H2 (80<90) 88 H3 (70<80) 77 H4 (60<70) 66 H5 (50<60) 56 O1 (90<100) 56 H6 (40<50) 46 O2 (80<90) 46 H7 (30<40) 37 O3 (70<80) 37 H8 O4 (60<70) 28 O5 (50<60) 20 O6 (40<50) 12 O7 (30<40) O8

THE POINTS SYSTEM

This is calculated by giving a set number of points for each grade and then adding the six best values to get the total number of points. 7 subjects – Points added from your best 6 Irish O O5 20 English H H4 66 Maths O O4 28 French H H2 88 Geography H H3 77 Home Economics H H2 88 Biology H H2 88 ___ Total Points 435

Student A Student B

Irish H4 66 Irish O2 46 English H2 88 English O3 37 Maths H6 71 Maths H5 81 French H5 56 Art H1 100 Chemistry H6 46 Music H1 100 Home Econ. H6 46 Home Econ. H3 77 Accounting H5 56 DCG H2 88 Total 383 Total 492

Subject Written Paper Project / Practical Accounting 100% Business 100% Art 38% 62% Geography 80% 20% History 80% 20% Home Economics 80% 20% Music 50% 50%

• Ag. Science

75% 25% DCG 60% 40% Chemistry 100% Physics 100% Biology 100%

Don’t make rash decisions Subject choice should not depend on what teacher will be teaching a certain subject at Leaving Certificate. Neither should it depend on rumours as to what is an ‘easy’ subject. Keep in mind that if you are seeking high points you will need to choose the subjects you feel you can do best in.

It is important to have a

substitute choice that

you have researched and that you are happy with should one

• f your choices prove not to be

feasible. Your school has also to put choices in various groupings so you may find that two of your chosen subjects are in the same group and you may only choose

• ne of them. So the message is be

aware of any potential difficulties that may arise.

Subject Level After choosing the subjects you now need to start thinking about the Level:

Choose Higher Level if you can – Try it for a while you can always go back to Ordinary Level.

BONUS POINTS FOR HONOURS MATHS

• If you achieve an H1 H6 in

Honours Maths you will be awarded 25 CAO Bonus Points.

Subject Good at Enjoy it Needed for my career French German Chemistry Physics Biology Agricultural Science Business Home Economics Accounting DCG History Geography Art Music

SUBJECT 1 : ____________________________ Advantages:       SUBJECT 2 : ____________________________ Advantages:       SUBJECT 1 : _____________________________ Disadvantages:       SUBJECT 2 : ______________________________ Disadvantages:      

DECIDING BETWEEN TWO SUBJECTS?

It often comes down to a decision between 2 subjects. Use this sheet to help you decide which subject is best for you.

QUESTIO ESTIONS NS TO ASK K MYSELF: If you can answer yes to all of these questions then you have chosen your subjects wisely and you can be confident that you have made an informed decision. Have I chosen subjects that I am interested in and that I enjoy? Have I checked to make sure that I am choosing the right subjects for the right career e.g. I must have a science subject e.g. Biology if I want to become a nurse. If my career choice is to change have I left my

• ptions open…i.e. science / language?

Have I chosen a European Language? Have I spoken to the Guidance Counsellor / subject teacher about any questions I had? Have I checked www.qualifax.ie : subject choice section? Have I made this decision for myself and not been influenced / persuaded by friends? (Remember what is right for someone else may not be right for you). YES / NO YES / NO YES / NO YES / NO YES / NO YES / NO YES / NO

How to get more information online yourself?

www.qualifax.ie www.careersportal.ie www.ncca.ie

Useful links:

https://careersportal.ie/school/subject_explorer.php?ed_sub_cat_id=238#Leaving Cert Subjects https://careersportal.ie/school/lc_subject_choice.php?ed_sub_cat_id=237#Quick Guide

Thank you for your attention.

Aisling O’Dwyer

Guidance Counsellor

aisling.odwyer@preslistowel.ie 068-21452 10th January 2019