Debt Overhang and Secular Stagnation
Adair Turner
Senior Fellow Institute for New Economic Thinking
Cass Business School London, 25th March 2015
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Debt Overhang and Secular Stagnation Adair Turner Senior Fellow Institute for New Economic Thinking Cass Business School London, 25 th March 2015 www.ineteconomics.org 300 Park Avenue South, New York, NY 10010 | 22 Park Street, London W1K 2JB
Adair Turner
Senior Fellow Institute for New Economic Thinking
Cass Business School London, 25th March 2015
www.ineteconomics.org 300 Park Avenue South, New York, NY 10010 | 22 Park Street, London W1K 2JB
1 2 4 6 Advanced Economies Emerging Market & developing countries World Fall 2011 Spring 2012 Fall 2012 Spring 2013 Fall 2013 Spring 2014 Source: IMF World Economic Outlook, October 2014
2 50 100 150 200 250 300 350 400
2012-01 2012-02 2012-03 2012-04 2012-05 2012-06 2012-07 2012-08 2012-09 2012-10 2012-11 2012-12 2013-01 2013-02 2013-03 2013-04 2013-05 2013-06 2013-07 2013-08 2013-09 2013-10 2013-11 2013-12 2014-01 2014-02 2014-03 2014-04 2014-05 2014-06 2014-07 2014-08 2014-09 2014-10 2014-11 2014-12
Source: US Bureau of Labor Statistics
%
3 0.0 0.5 1.0 1.5 2.0 2.5 3.0 3.5
2014-04-01 2014-05-01 2014-06-01 2014-07-01 2014-08-01 2014-09-01 2014-10-01 2014-11-01 2014-12-01 2015-01-01 2015-02-01 2015-03-01
USA UK Germany Japan
% monthly Source: Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis and IMF data
4
5 Source: Financial and Sovereign Debt Crises: Some Lessons Learned and Those Forgotten, C. Reinhart & K. Rogoff, 2013
6 Source: The Great Mortgaging, Professor Alan Taylor, University of California, Davis
Ratio of real estate lending to total lending
0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7
1880 1890 1900 1910 1920 1930 1940 1950 1960 1970 1980 1990 2000 2010
10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70%
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Expectation of future asset price increases Increased credit extended
Low credit losses: high bank profits
Increased asset prices Increased lender supply of credit Favourable assessments of credit risk Increased borrower demand for credit
House prices 2000 – 2007 Household debt as a % of GDP 2000 – 2007
Source: BEA; ONS; ECB
20 40 60 80 100 120 Q1 2000 Q1 2001 Q1 2002 Q1 2003 Q1 2004 Q1 2005 Q1 2006 Q1 2007 % GDP US UK Spain Ireland 50 100 150 200 250 Q1 2000 Q1 2001 Q1 2002 Q1 2003 Q1 2004 Q1 2005 Q1 2006 Q1 2007 Index: 2000 = 100 Spain US UK Ireland
Source: Ministry of Housing (Spain), S&P (US), DCLG
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9
Expectation of future asset price falls Less credit extended
High credit losses: low bank profits
Falling asset prices Restricted lender supply of credit Cautious assessments of credit risk Reduced borrower demand for credit
10 Source: IMF, Bank of Japan Flow of Funds Accounts
5 10 1990 1992 1994 1996 1998 2000 2002 2004 2006 2008 2010 PNFCs Government
%
50 100 150 200 250 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014
Bank lending to non-financial corporates General Government debt
11 Source: BoJ Flow of Funds Accounts, IMF WEO database (April 2011), FSA calculations
% GDP
12
12
50 65 80 95 110
2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
Household Non-financial Corp Public
% GDP
Source: Geneva Report No 16 Deleveraging, What Deleveraging? ICMB / CEPR September 2014
13
Source: Geneva Report No 16 Deleveraging, What Deleveraging? ICMB / CEPR September 2014
100 120 140 160 180 200 220 240 260 280 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13
Developed Markets Emerging Markets World % of GDP
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15 60 80 100 120 140 160 180 200 220 240 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 Series1 Series2 Series3 Series4 Series5 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
China China Turkey Brazil India Emerging Markets
Source: Deleveraging, What deleveraging, The Geneva Report, 2014
16
42 55 20 38 72 125 24 65 2007 2014 Q2
Financial institutions Non-Financial corporations Households Government
Source: McKinsey Global Institute
Total debt ($tr) 7.4 28.2 158 282
17 Source: McKinsey Global Institute
$ trillion
Household Real estate Real estate related Government Total exposure to property As % of total non- financial debt 8 10-15 10-15 10 40-45
1.8 2.5-3 2-2.5 2.2 8.5-9.5
18 Source: Deleveraging, What deleveraging, The Geneva Report, 2014 100 120 140 160 180 200 220 240 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
Spain China Germany
19 Euroz
Japa n UK US
7.2 6 7.8 1.6
Japan Eurozone
Source: International Monetary Fund Fiscal Monitor, October 2014
% of GDP, average 2008- 2013
1 2 3 4 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
Net Exports as % of GDP
UK USA Japan Eurozone
70 80 90 100 110 120 130 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014
Nominal GDP, 2008=100
UK USA Japan Eurozone
Sources: (IMF WEO, WB WDI) 70 80 90 100 110 120 130 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
UK USA Japan Eurozone
Domestic Demand (GDP - Net Exports) 2008=100
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21
22
UK Public net debt as % of GDP: 2009 - 2019
40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019
UK Household gross debt as % of income: 2009 - 2020
% Percent 140 145 150 155 160 165 170 175 180 185 2009Q1 2010Q1 2011Q1 2012Q1 2013Q1 2014Q1 2015Q1 2016Q1 2017Q1 2018Q1 2019Q1 2020Q1 Source: Office of Budget Responsibility, Economic and Fiscal Outlook, December 2014
23 70 75 80 85 90 95 100 105 January 2013 April June October January 2014 April June October January 2105 March
Euro Yen Yen and Euro versus US$
Source: IMF data and statistics
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Domestic impact of ultra loose monetary policy more private debt
Currency devaluations do not stimulate global demand: they shift demand
From one country to another Fiscal deficits more public debt From private to public, and then back From one country to another
Source: Geneva Report No 16 Deleveraging, What Deleveraging? ICMB / CEPR September 2014
100 120 140 160 180 200 220 240 260 280 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13
Developed Markets Emerging Markets World % of GDP
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Source: DMO, ONS
National debt as % of GDP 50 100 150 200 250 300 1930 1935 1940 1945 1950 1955 1960 1965 1970 1975 1980 % GDP
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2010 2014 2020
Continuous surplus thereafter to reach
by 2030
October 2014 Fiscal Monitor
+ 6.4
+ 5.6 November 2010 Fiscal Monitor
7% 5% 4%
Greece Ireland, Italy & Portugal Spain
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Source: Barry Eichengreen: The Bond Markets’ Dance, FT.com, 17 November 2014
Requirement: reduce debt to GDP each year by 1/20th of the excess over 60% of GDP Requires primary budget surpluses for 10+ years of:
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Debt
30
Source: Bank of England Statistics, Zero coupon real yields
31 Percent
1 2 3 4 5 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 20-year yield 10-year yield
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Reduced investment needs?
Global imbalances? Inequality? Demographic effects?
property and infrastructure?
33 15 20 25 30 35 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 World Advanced economies Emerging economies Source: International Monetary Fund, World Economic Outlook Database, October 2014 % GDP
50 100 150 200 250 300 350 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
bottom 20% top 5% top 1%
S Source: US Census Bureau; World Top Incomes Database
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35
Reduced investment needs?
Global imbalances? Inequality? Demographic effects?
property and infrastructure?
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15 20 25 1990 1992 1994 1996 1998 2000 2001 2004 2006 2008 2010 2012 2014
% of GDP
Source: International Monetary Fund, World Economic Outlook Database
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1800 - 1830 1830 - 1860 1860 - 1900 Source: Engel’s Pause: Technical Change, Capital accumulation and Inequality in the British Industrial Revolution, R. C. Allen (2009)
% Per annual change
0.6 0.0 1.1 1.6 1.0 0.8
38
(1=certain)
Source: The Future of Employment: How Susceptible are Jobs to Computerisation? C. Frey and M. Osborne (2013)
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40 20 65 21 21 18 24 32 30 22 30 19 90 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 1 9 2 6
Median annual wage ($000s)
Occupational categories by speed
Forecast job growth (000s)
1 Personal care aides
580
2 Registered nurses
527
3 Retail sales persons
435
4 Home health aides
424
5 Food preparation and serving aides
422
6 Nursing aides
312
7 Secretaries and administrative assistants
308
8 Customer services reps
299
9 Janitors and cleaners
280
10 Construction labourers
260
19 Maids and house keeping cleaners
183
26 Software developers, applications
140
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics, www.bls.gov
All sector average: 35
41 Real wage index Labour productivity index 100 103 106 109 112 115 118 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
Developed economies, 1999 – 2013
Source: Global Wage Report 2014/15, International Labour Organisation
42 Germany France Italy UK USA Japan Canada Australia
52 56 60 64 68
1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
Adjusted labour income share (%) Source: Global Wage Report 2014/15, International Labour Organisation
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42 44 46 48 50 52 54 56
1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011
Unadjusted labour income share (%)
Source: Global Wage Report 2014/15, International Labour Organisation
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2000 2005 2010 2015 2020 Population aged 20-69
(Millions)
178 189 200 209 214 Total in employment
(Millions)
137 142 139 148 Employment rate 77.8% 75.1% 69.5% 70.8% ͠
Source: UN Population Database (www.un.org); Bureau of Labor Statistics )(www.bls.org)
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Reduced investment needs?
Global imbalances? Inequality? Demographic effects?
property and infrastructure?
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0% 100% 200% 300% 400% 500% 600% 700% 800% 1700 1750 1780 1810 1850 1880 1910 1920 1950 1970 1990 2000 2010 % national income Net foreign assets Other domestic capital Housing Agricultural land
Source: Capital in the Twenty First Century, T. Piketty (2013)
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The high-tech/ high- touch economy
robots and apps
brands and design
without investment
irreproducible land
Secular demand deficiency?
unless credit fuelled consumption
interest rates
primarily against real estate/land Crisis and debt
produces crisis
deleveraging, and chronic under- demand
interest rates still further reduced
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