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Presenting Fragments as Quotations or Quotations as Fragments A Digital Edition of the Fragments of Demetrios of Scepsis Dr Alexandra Trachsel 19th February 2013 Digital Classicist Seminars Berlin

Context • Demetrios of Scepsis: – 2nd century BCE – working at one of the centres of scholarship in Antiquity (Pergamon) – Homeric scholarship (Aristarchus and Crates of Mallos) – Trojan Catalogue Troy / Ilion – Living and probably working Scepsis in his hometown (Scepsis) Pergamon

Demetrios’ work • Original length: 30 books • We have kept 75 fragments, most of them rather short • Indirect transmission • Title: ὁ τρωϊκ ὸ ς δι ά κοσ µ ος

Questions related to the state of preservation How to represent texts which are not based on the transcription • of a set of manuscripts, but on previous editions themselves based on critical editions of ancient texts. How to represent as accurately as possible the links between the • preserved quotations in a given source-text and Demetrios' work, as they are more or less close renderings of an initial lost piece.

Questions related to the state of preservation How to represent texts which are not based on the transcription • of a set of manuscripts, but on previous editions themselves based on critical editions of ancient texts. How to represent as accurately as possible the links between the • preserved quotations in a given source-text and Demetrios' work, as they are more or less close renderings of an initial lost piece. How to keep the choices modern authors made in this process • visible for the reader.

Working with previous editions Main distinctive feature: Two different groups of scholars involved - Those dealing with the source-texts - Those dealing with the fragments

Working with previous editions Edition a Edition b Edition c manuscripts Edition d

Working with previous editions Fr. 1 according to editor 1 Fr. 1 according to editor 2 Edition b Edition c manuscripts Fr. 1 according to editor 3 Edition d

Working with previous editions Fr. 1 according to editor 1 Fr. 1 according to editor 2 Edition b Edition c manuscripts Fr. 1 according to editor 3 Edition d >> Which text is Fr. 1 ?

Working with previous editions Fr 1. according to editor 1 Fr 1. according to editor 2 Fr 1. according to editor 3 (...) = Fr. 1 ( in a new digital edition)

Working with previous editions Fr. 2a according to editor 1 Fr. 2a according to editor 2 Ancient work 1 Fr. 2 according to editor 3 Fr. 2b according to editor 1 Fr. 2b according to editor 2 Ancient work 2

Working with previous editions Fr. 2a according to editor 1 Fr. 2a according to editor 2 W 1 Fr. 2 according to editor 3 (...) Fr. 2b according to editor 1 W 2 Fr. 2b according to editor 2 (...) = Fr. 2 ( in a new digital edition)

Working with previous editions Fr. 2a according to editor 1 Fr. 2a according to editor 2 Fr. 2 according to editor 3 Demetrios AW 1 Fr. 2 (as result of the interpreations of modern scholars) Fr. 2b according to editor 1 AW 2 Fr. 2b according to editor 2

Working with previous editions Attempts of solutions: The representing and expression of more or less close renderings of a • originally lost passage SAWS-project at King’s College London (http://www.ancientwisdoms.ac.uk/) • The CITE canonical citations address the difficulty that modern editors • do often not agree about the length of a fragment There remains the difficulty about the fact that one starts from the • editions and not from the ancient documents themselves

Arrangement of the fragments

Arrangement of the fragments Demetrios Demetrios Demetrios Demetrios Demetrios Demetrios Demetrios

Arrangement of the fragments 1 Demetrios 2 Demetrios 3 Demetrios 5 Demetrios 4 Demetrios 6 Demetrios 7 Demetrios

Arrangement of the fragments 1 Demetrios 2 Demetrios 3 Demetrios 5 Demetrios 4 Demetrios 6 Demetrios 7 Demetrios + all the rest

Arrangement of the fragments Iliad 2. 816-877: Demetrios: Demetrios 1) 816-818: Troy Fragment 1 Τρωσ ὶ µ ὲ ν ἡ γε µ όνευε µ έγας κορυθαίολος Ἕ κτωρ Demetrios Πρια µ ίδης ἅ µ α τ ῷ γε πολ ὺ πλε ῖ στοι κα ὶ ἄ ριστοι λαο ὶ θωρήσσοντο µ ε µ αότες ἐ γχεί ῃ σι . Demetrios Fragment 2 2) 819-823: Dardania Demetrios Δαρδανίων α ὖ τ ' ἦ ρχεν ἐῢ ς πάϊς Ἀ γχίσαο Α ἰ νείας , τ ὸ ν ὑ π ' Ἀ γχίσ ῃ τέκε δ ῖ ' Ἀ φροδίτη Fragment 3 Ἴ δης ἐ ν κνη µ ο ῖ σι θε ὰ βροτ ῷ ε ὐ νηθε ῖ σα , Demetrios ο ὐ κ ο ἶ ος , ἅ µ α τ ῷ γε δύω Ἀ ντήνορος υ ἷ ε Demetrios Ἀ ρχέλοχός τ ' Ἀ κά µ ας τε µ άχης ε ὖ ε ἰ δότε πάσης . Fragment 4 3) 824-827: Zeleia Ο ἳ δ ὲ Ζέλειαν ἔ ναιον ὑ πα ὶ πόδα νείατον Ἴ δης ἀ φνειο ὶ πίνοντες ὕ δωρ µ έλαν Α ἰ σήποιο Τρ ῶ ες , τ ῶ ν α ὖ τ ' ἦ ρχε Λυκάονος ἀ γλα ὸ ς υ ἱὸ ς Πάνδαρος , ᾧ κα ὶ τόξον Ἀ πόλλων α ὐ τ ὸ ς ἔ δωκεν . Fragment 5 (...)

Arrangement of the fragments Iliad 2. 816-877: Demetrios: Demetrios 1) 816-818: Troy Fragment 1 Τρωσ ὶ µ ὲ ν ἡ γε µ όνευε µ έγας κορυθαίολος Ἕ κτωρ Demetrios Πρια µ ίδης ἅ µ α τ ῷ γε πολ ὺ πλε ῖ στοι κα ὶ ἄ ριστοι λαο ὶ θωρήσσοντο µ ε µ αότες ἐ γχεί ῃ σι . Demetrios Fragment 2 2) 819-823: Dardania Demetrios Δαρδανίων α ὖ τ ' ἦ ρχεν ἐῢ ς πάϊς Ἀ γχίσαο Α ἰ νείας , τ ὸ ν ὑ π ' Ἀ γχίσ ῃ τέκε δ ῖ ' Ἀ φροδίτη Fragment 3 Ἴ δης ἐ ν κνη µ ο ῖ σι θε ὰ βροτ ῷ ε ὐ νηθε ῖ σα , Demetrios ο ὐ κ ο ἶ ος , ἅ µ α τ ῷ γε δύω Ἀ ντήνορος υ ἷ ε Demetrios Ἀ ρχέλοχός τ ' Ἀ κά µ ας τε µ άχης ε ὖ ε ἰ δότε πάσης . Fragment 4 3) 824-827: Zeleia Ο ἳ δ ὲ Ζέλειαν ἔ ναιον ὑ πα ὶ πόδα νείατον Ἴ δης ἀ φνειο ὶ πίνοντες ὕ δωρ µ έλαν Α ἰ σήποιο ? Fragment 6 ? Τρ ῶ ες , τ ῶ ν α ὖ τ ' ἦ ρχε Λυκάονος ἀ γλα ὸ ς υ ἱὸ ς Πάνδαρος , ᾧ κα ὶ τόξον Ἀ πόλλων α ὐ τ ὸ ς ἔ δωκεν . Fragment 5 (...)