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IRR Operational Model IR hierarchy model / Cooperate with whois JPNIC IRR Planning Team Tomoya Yoshida (NTT) yoshida@ocn.ad.jp 2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 1 History of US (1) 2000 Jan JPNIC IRR Workshop started


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2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 1

IRR Operational Model

~IR hierarchy model / Cooperate with whois~

JPNIC IRR Planning Team Tomoya Yoshida (NTT) yoshida@ocn.ad.jp

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2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 2

History of US (1)

2000 Jan … JPNIC IRR Workshop started

Investigation and research in the environment

surrounds IRR

2000 Mar … Apricot Meeting in Korea

Indication of the problem based on results of an

investigation

Proposal of solution

2001 Oct … APNIC Meeting 10th

APNIC decided to operate IRR

2001 May … NANOG in Scottsdale

Rough consensus that 3RIR(s) do IRR and mirror

each other

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2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 3

History of US (2)

2001 Aug … Workshop moved to

“JPNIC IRR Planning Team”

As a tidy organization

2002 Feb … NANOG Meeting in Miami

JPNIC Update at RR BOF provided by Merit

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2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 4

Goal

To make “Ideal IRR Operational Model” in AP Region

Coordination of AP Region’s IRR To make a guideline for IRR users Encouragement to use our model

JPNIC also use the model

Trial IRR Service for JPNIC Members Propose an authorization model

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2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 5

Current IRR Problems

Many IRR servers distributed

The number of mirror-paths of IRR increases

enormously

Dispersing IRR information is now in progress

Appropriate information cannot be acquired from IRR

About 50% of “full routes” are not registered to

public IRRs etc..

Week Authorization mechanism

Anyone will be able to register to IRR IRR cannot judge whether information is right or

not

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2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 6

Basic concept of

“IRR Operational Model”

IR should operate IRR server

IR can only ensure whether the IRR

information is right or not

The same model as the hierarchy model from IR is adopted

Each IR maintain their delegation blocks

and mirrored each other

Easy to migrate of IRR information and

whois database

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2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 7

* 1 : Inter-RIR Mirror * 2 : Inter-IR Mirror * 3 : Member Mirror

IRR Mirroring Model

* 1 APNIC ARIN RIPE JPNIC NIR’s LIR’s LIR’s * 2

・ ・ ・

* 3 LIR’s

・ ・ ・ ・ ・ ・

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2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 8

(* 1) Inter-RIR Mirror

APNIC IRR APNIC IRR ARIN IRR ARIN IRR RIPE IRR RIPE IRR

Bi-directional Mirroring among RIR Includes the information replicated from Inter-IR mirror Full-mesh topology

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2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 9

(* 2) Inter-IR Mirror

Bi-directional mirroring between RIR and NIR NIR’s IRR mirror all IRR data from its super-ordinate RIR’s IRR

APNIC IRR APNIC IRR JPNIC IRR JPNIC IRR Search Search

Registration Registration Update Update

Mirror Mirror Search Search USER (JPNIC Member) USER (JPNIC Member) Mirror Mirror

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2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 10

(* 3) Member Mirror

Uni-directional mirroring from IR LIR’s IRR dose not have a repository, only get information from RIR or LIR

APNIC IRR APNIC IRR JPNIC IRR JPNIC IRR Mirror Mirror LIR LIR’ ’s s IRR IRR Mirror Mirror Mirror Mirror

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JPIRR (JPNIC IRR)

What is JPIRR

NIR’s IRR

Mirror with RIR( APNIC) and Supplied of data Providing IRR service for LIRs and users

Experimental IRR

Purpose of JPIRR

Verification of this model Providing experimental service for JPNIC members The validity check of a guideline

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2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 12

Remaining Issues

Need to make an appropriate authorization mechanism

Cooperate or migration with WHOIS?

Implementation is to be discussed

Any other ideas?

Operational issue

Cooperate with ISP’s IRR servers

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authorization mechanism (just idea..)

Whois check

Address Block

Allocation

Prefix

IR ISP

Announcement

The Internet IRR

Authorize

Registration

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2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 14

Remaining Issues

Need to make an appropriate authorization mechanism

Cooperate or migration with WHOIS?

Implementation is to be discussed

Any other ideas?

Operational issue

Cooperate with ISP’s IRR servers

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Definition of Public/Private IRR Information

APNIC ARIN RIPE JPNIC NIR’s LIR’s LIR’s LIR’s

・ ・ ・ ・ ・ ・ ・ ・ ・ public Mirroring Private Mirroring (exchanged their

private IRR information)

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2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 16

Conclusion

“IRR mirroring model“ is proposed

Adopted IR hierarchy model

We need to get enough data

Mirroring Propagation test The guideline is checked by using this model

Other NIRs need to start IRR and mirror by using this model !! We have to discuss about remaining issues

To make an appropriate authorization mechanism Operational issues (ISP’s IRR server)

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2002/10/24 JPNIC IRR Planning Team 17

Thank you for everyone Please continue this discussion on routing-sig@apnic.net