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GreekCaseStudyTeam Update Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos

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VaggelisSegredakis (Coordinator) AsiminaGiannopoulou CatherineTsapikidou EvangelosMelagrakis FotiaPanayiotou GeorgePapapavlou GiannisPapaioannou PanagiotisPapaspiliopoulos

GreekCaseStudyTeamMembers

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• TheGreekCaseStudyTeamdevelopedaReport:

“Studyoftheissuespresentintheregistration

• fIDNTLDs inGREEKcharacters”
• ThereportwaspostedforcommentinthePublic

Forumon07October2011.See: http://www.icann.org/en/public4comment/idn4 vip4greek407oct114en.htm.

• CommentswillbeacceptedintheForumuntil

14November2011.

CurrentStatus

StructureoftheReport

• Introduction4

Disclaimer

• Definitions
• Usefulkeypoints

regardingtheGreek language

• ProposedCharacters

forRegistrations

• Issuesconcerned
• Proposedsolutions
• Recommendations
• Appendix

(tableofproposed allowedcharacters forGreekTLD registrations)

Definitions

• Homograph
• Homophone
• Greeklish
• AliasedName
• NameAliasing
• BundlingDomain

Names

• Tonos
• Dialytika
• Katharevousa
• Dimotiki

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• TheGreekLanguageQuestion

Diglossia:Katharevousa vs.Dimotiki (e.g.Πειραιεύς4 Πειραιάς)

• TheGreekOrthography

Polytonic vs.Monotonic(e.g.theLord’sPrayer)

• Πάτερ ἡμῶν ὁ ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς, ἁγιασθήτω τὸ ὄνομά σου, ἐλθέτω ἡ

βασιλεία σου, γενηθήτω τὸ θέλημά σου, ὡς ἐν οὐρανῷ καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς

• Πάτερ ηών ο εν τοις ουρανοίς, αγιασθήτω το όνοά σου, ελθέτω η

βασιλεία σου, γενηθήτω το θέληά σου, ως εν ουρανώ και επί της γης

UsefulKeyPoints

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OnlyMonotoniccharactersareallowed!

• Monotoniccharactersareusedtodayinthespellingof

Greekwords.

• Polytonic charactersforTLDregistrationofferno

significantadvantagefortheaverageuser.

• ThisrecommendationstandsonlyfortheGreekTLDs;

registriesareencouragedtodecideupontheuseofthe polytonic charactersintheirpolicyforthelowerlevels.

ProposedCharactersforRegistrations

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Thesigmaandfinalsigma

• σ

σ (small,U+03C3)e.g.ασπίδα(shield)

• Σ

Σ (capital,U+03A3)e.g.Σοφία(femalename)

• ς

ς (smallfinal,U+03C2)e.g.τέλος (end) but…

• IDNA2003:σ <4>Σ <4>ς(e.g.θησαυρός– treasure)

θησαυρός→ ΘΗΣΑΥΡΟΣ→θησαυροσ → → notcorrectGreek! notcorrectGreek!

• IDNA2008:σ andς aredifferentacceptedcharacters,

treatedseparately– reversemappingnopossible!

IssuesConcerned

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TheIDNAapproachoftranslatingGreekwordsinto domainnames

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.ελλάς ελλάς (.xn44hxarsa0b)smalllettersform

• .

.ελλας ελλας (.xn44mxahsa0b)misspelledwithoutthetonos

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.ΕΛΛΑΣ ΕΛΛΑΣ(. .ελλασ ελλασ) ) (.xn44mxahsa5b)capitallettersform

• inIDNA2008uppercaselettersaredisallowed– however an

applicationmaymapthemtoallowedcharacters but… atypicaluserexpectstotypethedomainnameinuppercaseand lowercaseandendupatthesameresult,asithappensinASCII thus: aword(orstring)withoutatonosshouldbeaddressedasvariant

IssuesConcerned,Cont.

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• Homographs

4 ΕΕΤΤ(greek/capital)– EETT(latin/capital) εεττ (greek/small)– eett (latin/small) 4 Αθήνα– Αθηνά→ ΑΘΗΝΑ

• Homophones

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lotto– λοττο (orλοτο)

• Greeklish

4 Αθήνα→ Athina /A8ina/A8hna

IssuesConcerned,Cont.

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• Registrationscontainingthetonosaccent
• themajorityofthewordsinsmalllettershavetohavethetonos

accentoveroneofthevowelstobespelledcorrectly

• adomainwithoutthetonosisconsistingofthelettersofthe

uppercaseformofthedomainname,ifthefinalsigmaisnot present

• manydomainnamesrepresentwordsandtheuserwillexpect

themtohavethetonosaccent

• Registrationscontainingthefinalsigma
• theuseofthefinalsigmaisessentialforthecorrectspelling of

theGreekwordsandmalenames

IssuesConcerned,Cont.

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Whatshouldbeconsideredas?

• avariantofalabelrepresentingaword(accentedbytonosin

smallletters’form)couldbethesamewordincapitalletters, sincethecapitallettersarenotaccented,

• thevariationofagivenwordinKatharevousaandDimotiki,
• themonotonicandthepolytonicformoftheword,
• accentedandnot4accentedformsofaword/string,
• thevariationofaword/stringretainingthefinalsigmaatthe

exactrequestedpositionbetweentheonewhenthefinalsigma (ς) isreplacedbythemiddlesigma (σ),

• variationscreatedbychangingcaseaword/stringfromsmallto

capitalletters,accordingtotheGreekgrammar

IssuesConcerned,Cont.

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• Acceptedcharacters:small,monotonic,including

characterswithtonos,dialytikaandtheircombination

• Thedomainnamewillbeacceptedattheexact

requestedform

• Thesamedomainwillbeallocatedtotheregistrant,

strippedoftheaccentmarksandfinalsigmas,ifany (variant1)

• Thesamedomainwillbeallocatedtotheregistrant,

strippedoftheaccentmarks,retainingthefinalsigmas, attheiroriginalpositions(variant2)

ProposedSolutions– TheVariantsProposal

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• Alternativepositioningofthetonosaccentisnot

allowed

• Alternativepositioningofthefinalsigmaisnotallowed
• Alternative,samemeaningwords,arenotallowed(if

thedomainnameconsistsofwords)– itisthe “Katharevousa vs.Dimotiki” issue.Theapplicantwill

• nlychoosetoregisteroneandtheothershouldbe

excludedfromregistration

• Twooptionsforhandlingtheallocatedvariants:
• theyentertherootzoneasDNAMEs
• theyaretreatedasFQDNs

ProposedSolutions–TheVariantsProposal,cont.

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• Acceptedcharacters:small,monotonic,including

characterswithtonos,dialytikaandtheircombination

• Theonlyacceptedformofthedomainnameistheform

thatisoriginallysubmittedbytheapplicant,withthe specifictonos’ positionsandthepossiblefinalsigmas

• Thesameform,strippedofaccentsisnotallowed
• Thesameform,strippedoftheaccentsandwithany

combinationofsigma/finalsigma,isnotallowed

ProposedSolutions– SmallCharactersProposal

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• Alternativepositioningofthetonosaccentisnot

allowed

• Alternative,samemeaningwords,arenotallowed(if

thedomainnameconsistsofwords)– itisthe “Katharevousa vs. Dimotiki” issue.Theapplicantwill

• nlychoosetoregisteroneandtheothershouldbe

excludedfromregistration

ProposedSolutions–SmallCharactersProposal,cont.

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Takingintoaccount:

• theadvantagesanddisadvantagesofeachproposal
• theaverageinternetuser’sexperience,needsand

expectations

• thecurrentprotocols’ statusandtechnology’s

limitations

TheGreekCaseStudyTeamrecommendsasthe mostappropriatesolutiontheVariantsproposal

Recommendations

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• ThePublicCommentForumontheGreekCase

StudyTeamreportendson14November2011.

• TheGreekCaseStudyTeamwillanalyzethe

commentsanddeterminehowtoaddressthem andwhethertorevisetheReport.

• TheGreek,CyrillicandLatinStudyTeamsmust

interacttoidentifycross4scriptissuesthatmight bepresentbetweenLatin,GreekandCyrillic characters.

NextSteps

ThankYou

Questions

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