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Firewall vs. Scrambling 2 1 Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill 4 3 State-independent interior operators Interior operator from HP recovery 6 5 Resolution of the puzzle Effect of infalling observer 7 Discussions Beni


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Firewall vs. Scrambling

Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill State-independent interior operators Effect of infalling observer Resolution of the puzzle Discussions

1 2 4 5 6 7

Interior operator from HP recovery

3

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Firewall vs. Scrambling

Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

State-independent interior operators Effect of infalling observer Resolution of the puzzle Discussions

1 2 4 5 6 7

Interior operator from HP recovery

3

Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill

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Firewall vs. Scrambling

Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill State-independent interior operators Effect of infalling observer Resolution of the puzzle Discussions

1 2 4 5 6 7

Interior operator from HP recovery

3

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Firewall vs. Scrambling

Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill State-independent interior operators Discussions

1 2 4 5 6 7

Interior operator from HP recovery

3

Effect of infalling observer Resolution of the puzzle

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Firewall vs. Scrambling

Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill State-independent interior operators Effect of infalling observer Resolution of the puzzle Discussions

1 2 4 5 6 7

Interior operator from HP recovery

3

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Proposals (for impatient listeners)

(Each phrase will be defined more precisely later)

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Proposals (for impatient listeners)

  • I will construct the interior operator in a “state-independent” manner without

involving the distant radiation ever. It “avoids” previous no-go results. (Each phrase will be defined more precisely later)

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Proposals (for impatient listeners)

  • I will construct the interior operator in a “state-independent” manner without

involving the distant radiation ever. It “avoids” previous no-go results.

  • I will show that the infalling observer leaves non-trivial gravitational backreaction

and disentangles the outgoing mode from the early radiation, no matter how she falls. (Each phrase will be defined more precisely later)

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Proposals (for impatient listeners)

  • I will construct the interior operator in a “state-independent” manner without

involving the distant radiation ever. It “avoids” previous no-go results.

  • I will show that the infalling observer leaves non-trivial gravitational backreaction

and disentangles the outgoing mode from the early radiation, no matter how she falls. (Each phrase will be defined more precisely later)

  • I will argue that the infalling observer sees a smooth horizon. Her infalling

experience cannot be influenced by any operation on the early radiation.

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Firewall vs. Scrambling

Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill State-independent interior operators Effect of infalling observer Resolution of the puzzle Discussions

1 2 4 5 6 7

Interior operator from HP recovery

3

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Firewall puzzle(s), brief summary

From the outside (Bob)

(a)

C : Remaining black hole D : Outgoing mode R : Early radiation

e r = 2GM + ✏ c ly r > 3GM

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Firewall puzzle(s), brief summary

From the outside (Bob)

(a)

I(D, R) ⇡ max I(C, D) ⇡ 0 (

“old” black hole

C : Remaining black hole D : Outgoing mode R : Early radiation

e r = 2GM + ✏ c ly r > 3GM

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Firewall puzzle(s), brief summary

From the outside (Bob)

(a)

From the inside (Alice)

(b)

I(D, R) ⇡ max I(C, D) ⇡ 0 (

“old” black hole

C : Remaining black hole D : Outgoing mode R : Early radiation

e r = 2GM + ✏ c ly r > 3GM

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Firewall puzzle(s), brief summary

From the outside (Bob)

(a)

From the inside (Alice)

(b)

: Rindler modes

I(D, ¯ D) ⇡ max

D ¯ D

I(D, R) ⇡ max I(C, D) ⇡ 0 (

“old” black hole

C : Remaining black hole D : Outgoing mode R : Early radiation

e r = 2GM + ✏ c ly r > 3GM

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Firewall puzzle(s), brief summary

From the outside (Bob)

(a)

From the inside (Alice)

(b)

: Rindler modes

I(D, ¯ D) ⇡ max

D ¯ D

I(D, R) ⇡ max I(C, D) ⇡ 0 (

“old” black hole

C : Remaining black hole D : Outgoing mode R : Early radiation

e r = 2GM + ✏ c ly r > 3GM

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Firewall puzzle(s), brief summary

From the outside (Bob)

(a)

From the inside (Alice)

(b)

: Rindler modes

I(D, ¯ D) ⇡ max

D ¯ D

I(D, R) ⇡ max I(C, D) ⇡ 0 (

“old” black hole

C : Remaining black hole D : Outgoing mode R : Early radiation

e r = 2GM + ✏ c ly r > 3GM I(D, ¯ D) ≈ 0 (

firewall?

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Firewall puzzle(s), brief summary

From the outside (Bob)

(a)

From the inside (Alice)

(b)

: Rindler modes

I(D, ¯ D) ⇡ max

D ¯ D

I(D, R) ⇡ max I(C, D) ⇡ 0 (

“old” black hole

C : Remaining black hole D : Outgoing mode R : Early radiation

e r = 2GM + ✏ c ly r > 3GM I(D, ¯ D) ≈ 0 (

firewall? Monogamy of entanglement

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  • In outside description, is supported on not on (remaining BH)

Interior operators

(a)

D, ¯ D)

D CR C

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  • In outside description, is supported on not on (remaining BH)

Interior operators

(a)

D, ¯ D)

D CR

  • Non-locality problem

Place R at a far distant universe. “A = RB” approach, “ER = EPR” approach (This is how quantum gravity works?)

C

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  • In outside description, is supported on not on (remaining BH)

Interior operators

(a)

D, ¯ D)

D CR

  • Non-locality problem

Place R at a far distant universe. “A = RB” approach, “ER = EPR” approach (This is how quantum gravity works?)

C

Two-sided AdS black hole

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  • In outside description, is supported on not on (remaining BH)

Interior operators

(a)

D, ¯ D)

D CR

  • State-dependence problem
  • Interior operators depend on the state, namely R.
  • Violation of Born rule, Frozen vacuum, …
  • Papadodimas-Raju proposal for state-dependence, …
  • Non-locality problem

Place R at a far distant universe. “A = RB” approach, “ER = EPR” approach (This is how quantum gravity works?)

C

Two-sided AdS black hole

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Firewall vs. Scrambling

Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill State-independent interior operators Effect of infalling observer Resolution of the puzzle Discussions

1 2 4 5 6 7

Interior operator from HP recovery

3

IFQ lecture (4th week)

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EPR

Hayden-Preskill, brief summary

C : Remaining BH D : Late radiation R : Early radiation

  • Alice throws a quantum state into an old black hole. Bob collects the Hawking

radiation and reconstruct the original state.

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EPR

Hayden-Preskill, brief summary

C : Remaining BH D : Late radiation R : Early radiation

  • Alice throws a quantum state into an old black hole. Bob collects the Hawking

radiation and reconstruct the original state.

  • Bob needs to collect just a few qubits from D.

V : recovery unitary “Black hole as mirrors” (Hayden-Preskill)

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Out-of-time order correlation

  • Hayden-Preskill : Haar random U. Existence proof of decoder V.

A : input C : remaining BH D : late radiation R : early radiation

EPR

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Out-of-time order correlation

  • Hayden-Preskill : Haar random U. Existence proof of decoder V.
  • Hosur-Qi-Roberts-BY : decay of out-of-time order correlator (OTOC) implies

existence of V. (2015)

hOA(0)OD(t)O†

A(0)O† D(t)i ⌘ 1

d Tr

  • OAU †ODUO†

AU †O† DU

  • A : input

C : remaining BH D : late radiation R : early radiation

EPR

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Out-of-time order correlation

  • Hayden-Preskill : Haar random U. Existence proof of decoder V.
  • Hosur-Qi-Roberts-BY : decay of out-of-time order correlator (OTOC) implies

existence of V. (2015)

hOA(0)OD(t)O†

A(0)O† D(t)i ⌘ 1

d Tr

  • OAU †ODUO†

AU †O† DU

  • A : input

C : remaining BH D : late radiation R : early radiation

2I(2)(A0,RD) = Z dOAdOD hOA(0)OD(t)O†

A(0)O† D(t)i

“state representation” of U

EPR EPR

EPR

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Out-of-time order correlation

  • Hayden-Preskill : Haar random U. Existence proof of decoder V.

2I(2)(A0,RD) = Z dOAdOD hOA(0)OD(t)O†

A(0)O† D(t)i

EPR EPR

EPR EPR

.

A : input C : remaining BH D : late radiation R : early radiation “partner operator“

  • Hosur-Qi-Roberts-BY : decay of out-of-time order correlator (OTOC) implies

existence of V. (2015)

hOA(0)OD(t)O†

A(0)O† D(t)i ⌘ 1

d Tr

  • OAU †ODUO†

AU †O† DU

  • EPR
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Decoding protocol

  • Kitaev-BY : decay of OTOC implies “simple” recovery protocols. (2017)
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Decoding protocol

  • Project onto the EPR pair. (probabilistic)

EPR EPR

D ¯ D

“Decoding protocol”

projection

  • Kitaev-BY : decay of OTOC implies “simple” recovery protocols. (2017)
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Decoding protocol

  • Deterministic protocol : incorporate Grover algorithm, unitarily restore in EPR.

D ¯ D

  • Project onto the EPR pair. (probabilistic)

EPR EPR

D ¯ D

“Decoding protocol”

projection

  • Kitaev-BY : decay of OTOC implies “simple” recovery protocols. (2017)
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Decoding protocol

?

“Traversable wormhole”

  • Deterministic protocol : incorporate Grover algorithm, unitarily restore in EPR.

D ¯ D

  • Project onto the EPR pair. (probabilistic)

EPR EPR

D ¯ D

“Decoding protocol”

projection

  • Kitaev-BY : decay of OTOC implies “simple” recovery protocols. (2017)
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Firewall vs. Scrambling

Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill State-independent interior operators Effect of infalling observer Resolution of the puzzle Discussions

1 2 4 5 6 7

Interior operator from HP recovery

3

(BY 2018)

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Interior operators

EPR EPR

EPR EPR

  • Recall the Hayden-Preskill recovery
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  • and the AMPS problem…

Interior operators

C : Remaining BH D : Outgoing mode R : Radiation

EPR D C R EPR D C R

U O U O

U OD

OCR

=

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Split R into AB

  • and the AMPS problem…

Interior operators

C : Remaining BH D : Outgoing mode R : Radiation

EPR D C R EPR D C R

U O U O

U OD

OCR

= A B

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Reconstruct on CA.

  • and the AMPS problem…

Interior operators

C : Remaining BH D : Outgoing mode R : Radiation

EPR D C R D

U O

U OD

= A B Split R into AB EPR C R

U O

A B

OCA

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Reconstruct on CA.

  • and the AMPS problem…

Interior operators

C : Remaining BH D : Outgoing mode R : Radiation

EPR D C R D

U O

U OD

= A B Split R into AB EPR C R

U O

A B

OCA

Rotate the figure…

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  • Interior partner in A (a few qubits in R) and C (remaining BH)

e =

Interior operators

C : Remaining BH D : Outgoing mode R : Radiation

OCA

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  • Interior partner in A (a few qubits in R) and C (remaining BH)

e =

AMPS Reconstruct D (outgoing) from C (remaining BH) and A (early mode) Reconstruct A (early mode) from B (initial BH) and D (outgoing) HP

Interior operators

C : Remaining BH D : Outgoing mode R : Radiation

OCA

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  • Properties

e =

Interior operators

  • You can choose any subsystem A from R to reconstruct
  • Construction of is naturally fault-tolerant.
  • is “almost” inside C with a few extra qubits from R.

D, ¯ D) D, ¯ D) D, ¯ D)

C : Remaining BH D : The zone R : Radiation

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  • Properties

e =

Interior operators

  • You can choose any subsystem A from R to reconstruct
  • Construction of is naturally fault-tolerant.
  • is “almost” inside C with a few extra qubits from R.

D, ¯ D) D, ¯ D) D, ¯ D)

  • Problems …
  • Construction is state-dependent.
  • Non-locality problem (use of A)

(I ⌦ K)|EPRi

C : Remaining BH D : The zone R : Radiation

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Some lesson

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Some lesson

  • Reconstruction of interior operators

Alice Bob

If Alice takes A, then Alice possesses the EPR pair If Alice didn’t take A, then Bob possesses the EPR pair AB : Radiation (R) D : outgoing mode C : remaining black hole

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Some lesson

  • Reconstruction of interior operators

Alice Bob

If Alice takes A, then Alice possesses the EPR pair If Alice didn’t take A, then Bob possesses the EPR pair AB : Radiation (R) D : outgoing mode C : remaining black hole

  • We can choose A to be any small subsystem !
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Some lesson

  • Reconstruction of interior operators

Alice Bob

If Alice takes A, then Alice possesses the EPR pair If Alice didn’t take A, then Bob possesses the EPR pair AB : Radiation (R) D : outgoing mode C : remaining black hole

  • We can choose A to be any small subsystem !
  • Alice does not need to take A. She simply needs to fall into a black hole.
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Firewall vs. Scrambling

Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill State-independent interior operators Effect of infalling observer Resolution of the puzzle Discussions

1 2 4 5 6 7

Interior operator from HP recovery

3

(BY 2018) (BY 2019)

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“Generic” two-sided “AdS” black hole

  • Generic two-sided AdS BH

EPR

U

(I ⌦ K)|EPRi

Generic two-sided AdS = K is arbitrary, BH not evaporating

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EPR

At : propagating modes Bt : modes at stretched horizo

boundary modes

  • ther modes

Generic two-sided AdS = K is arbitrary, BH not evaporating

“Generic” two-sided “AdS” black hole

  • Generic two-sided AdS BH (I ⌦ K)|EPRi
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EPR

(a)

EPR SWAP Prepare ancillary EPR and apply SWAP

At : propagating modes Bt : modes at stretched horizo

boundary modes

  • ther modes

Generic two-sided AdS = K is arbitrary, BH not evaporating

“Generic” two-sided “AdS” black hole

  • Generic two-sided AdS BH (I ⌦ K)|EPRi
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EPR

(a)

EPR SWAP Prepare ancillary EPR and apply SWAP

EPR

At : propagating modes Bt : modes at stretched horizo

boundary modes

  • ther modes

Generic two-sided AdS = K is arbitrary, BH not evaporating

“Generic” two-sided “AdS” black hole

  • Generic two-sided AdS BH (I ⌦ K)|EPRi
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EPR

(a)

EPR SWAP Prepare ancillary EPR and apply SWAP

  • can be reconstructed on and

D ¯ D C D CR At

without ever accessing R EPR

At : propagating modes Bt : modes at stretched horizo

boundary modes

  • ther modes

Generic two-sided AdS = K is arbitrary, BH not evaporating

“Generic” two-sided “AdS” black hole

  • Generic two-sided AdS BH (I ⌦ K)|EPRi
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State-independence

EPR

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State-independence

EPR

  • Construction does not depend on K
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State-independence

EPR

  • Construction does not depend on K

|0i⊗n

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State-independence

EPR

  • Construction does not depend on K

|0i⊗n

  • Works for one-sided BH too.
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Evaporating black hole

Rt : high-energy radiation At : modes on the zone Bt : modes at stretched horizon

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Evaporating black hole

  • Use not

At

R

Rt : high-energy radiation At : modes on the zone Bt : modes at stretched horizon

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Codeword subspaces

  • State-independence inside codeword subspace

BH

e ≈ 2SBH-dimensional

in Hcode.

Coarse-grained Hilbert space , determined by M, J, Q…

in Hcode.: wavefunctions with the same classical geometry

“S-qubit” toy model

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Codeword subspaces

  • State-independence inside codeword subspace
  • Eigenstate Thermalization Hypothesis (ETH)

BH

e ≈ 2SBH-dimensional

in Hcode.

Coarse-grained Hilbert space , determined by M, J, Q…

in Hcode.: wavefunctions with the same classical geometry

“S-qubit” toy model

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Codeword subspaces

  • State-independence inside codeword subspace
  • Eigenstate Thermalization Hypothesis (ETH)
  • Claim: state-independence for black holes initially in thermal equilibrium.

thermalization time scrambling time

er ≈ rS log rS er ≈ rS

BH

e ≈ 2SBH-dimensional

in Hcode.

Coarse-grained Hilbert space , determined by M, J, Q…

in Hcode.: wavefunctions with the same classical geometry

“S-qubit” toy model

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Firewall vs. Scrambling

Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill State-independent interior operators Effect of infalling observer Resolution of the puzzle Discussions

1 2 4 5 6 7

Interior operator from HP recovery

3

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Including Alice

  • Consider the eternal AdS. Bob’s can verify entanglement on from the boundary.

D ˜ D

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Including Alice

  • Consider the eternal AdS. Bob’s can verify entanglement on from the boundary.
  • Add an apparatus M which travels along with A.

M becomes gravitational shockwave. Bob’s entanglement is disturbed. Due to decay of OTOCs.

D ˜ D

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Including Alice

  • Consider the eternal AdS. Bob’s can verify entanglement on from the boundary.
  • Add an apparatus M which travels along with A.

M becomes gravitational shockwave. Bob’s entanglement is disturbed. Due to decay of OTOCs.

  • Outgoing mode D is disentangled from R (RHS) ?

D ˜ D

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Including Alice

  • Consider the eternal AdS. Bob’s can verify entanglement on from the boundary.
  • Add an apparatus M which travels along with A.

M becomes gravitational shockwave. Bob’s entanglement is disturbed. Due to decay of OTOCs.

  • Outgoing mode D is disentangled from R (RHS) ?

) =

EPR

Small OTOC

I(C, D) ⇡ max

D is not entangled with R “Proof”

D ˜ D

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Including Alice

  • Consider the eternal AdS. Bob’s can verify entanglement on from the boundary.
  • Add an apparatus M which travels along with A.

M becomes gravitational shockwave. Bob’s entanglement is disturbed. Due to decay of OTOCs.

  • Outgoing mode D is disentangled from R (RHS) ?

) =

EPR

Small OTOC

I(C, D) ⇡ max

D is not entangled with R “Proof”

  • Works for black holes on flat space. (Follows from QM and OTOC decay).

D ˜ D

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Sending probes

  • Shoot a probe mode into the BH (mimics the reconstruction protocol)
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Sending probes

  • Shoot a probe mode into the BH (mimics the reconstruction protocol)
  • OTOC decay implies , so D is not entangled with R.

I(2)(D, EC) ⇡ max

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Sending probes

  • Shoot a probe mode into the BH (mimics the reconstruction protocol)
  • OTOC decay implies , so D is not entangled with R.

I(2)(D, EC) ⇡ max

  • Decay of OTOC is universal gravitational phenomena.
  • Interior operator does not depend on R, but depends on the observer.
  • Outgoing mode is disentangled from early radiation no matter how Alice

falls in !

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Sending probes

  • Shoot a probe mode into the BH (mimics the reconstruction protocol)
  • OTOC decay implies , so D is not entangled with R.

I(2)(D, EC) ⇡ max

  • This requires scrambling time separation.
  • A (or E) needs to be as large as D.
  • Some caveats
  • Decay of OTOC is universal gravitational phenomena.
  • Interior operator does not depend on R, but depends on the observer.
  • Outgoing mode is disentangled from early radiation no matter how Alice

falls in !

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Bulk interpretations

  • Treat Alice as a shockwave

D

˜ D

without Alice

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Bulk interpretations

  • Treat Alice as a shockwave

D

˜ D

without Alice

D D

with Alice

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Bulk interpretations

  • Treat Alice as a shockwave

D

˜ D

without Alice

D D

with Alice

  • Interior operator is outside the causal influence of RHS. Alice won’t be affected

by RHS. D

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Bulk interpretations

  • Treat Alice as a shockwave

D

˜ D

without Alice

D D

with Alice

  • Interior operator is outside the causal influence of RHS. Alice won’t be affected

by RHS. D

  • Alice sees a “phantom” of . Non-locality problem can be resolved.

˜ D Resolution of non-locality problem

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Firewall vs. Scrambling

Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill State-independent interior operators Effect of infalling observer Resolution of the puzzle Discussions

1 2 4 5 6 7

Interior operator from HP recovery

3

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AMPS thought experiment

  • Original argument

early radiation

  • utgoing

mode

D

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AMPS thought experiment

  • Original argument

early radiation

  • utgoing

mode

D ˜ D

entangled

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AMPS thought experiment

  • Original argument

early radiation

  • utgoing

mode

D ˜ D

entangled BH

D

entangled

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AMPS thought experiment

  • Original argument

early radiation

  • utgoing

mode

D ˜ D

entangled BH

D

entangled firewall ?

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AMPS thought experiment

  • Some previous proposals…

BH early radiation

  • utgoing

mode

D ˜ D

entangled

D

entangled

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AMPS thought experiment

  • Some previous proposals…

BH early radiation

  • utgoing

mode

D ˜ D

entangled

D

entangled same ?

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AMPS thought experiment

  • Some previous proposals…

BH early radiation

  • utgoing

mode

D ˜ D

entangled

D

entangled same ? shockwave ?

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AMPS thought experiment

  • Our proposal

BH early radiation

  • utgoing

mode

D ˜ D

D

entangled

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AMPS thought experiment

  • Our proposal

BH early radiation

  • utgoing

mode

D ˜ D

D

entangled entangled Alice

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Can we create a firewall?

  • Bob can stop Alice from seeing the EPR by preventing her from jumping into the BH.
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Can we create a firewall?

  • Bob can stop Alice from seeing the EPR by preventing her from jumping into the BH.

Perform the Hayden-Preskill recovery !

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Can we create a firewall?

  • Bob can stop Alice from seeing the EPR by preventing her from jumping into the BH.

EPR EPR projection

  • Recall the recovery protocol by BY and Kitaev… Verification of entanglement.

D ¯ D

Perform the Hayden-Preskill recovery !

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Can we create a firewall?

  • Bob can stop Alice from seeing the EPR by preventing her from jumping into the BH.

EPR EPR projection

  • Recall the recovery protocol by BY and Kitaev… Verification of entanglement.

D ¯ D

  • Bob’s verification of the EPR pair performs the HP recovery

Perform the Hayden-Preskill recovery !

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Can we create a firewall?

  • Bob can stop Alice from seeing the EPR by preventing her from jumping into the BH.

EPR EPR projection

  • Recall the recovery protocol by BY and Kitaev… Verification of entanglement.

D ¯ D

  • Bob’s verification of the EPR pair performs the HP recovery

Perform the Hayden-Preskill recovery !

  • Bob cannot perform HP recovery by acting on the early radiation only.
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Firewall (Hayden-Preskill) in a laboratory

  • In a sense, Hayden-Preskill recovery is a firewall although it actually saves Alice.

LETTER

https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-019-0952-6

Verified quantum information scrambling

  • K. A. Landsman1*, C. Figgatt1,6, T. Schuster2, N. M. Linke1, B. Yoshida3, N. Y

. Yao2,4 & C. Monroe1,5 Quantum scrambling is the dispersal of local information into many-body quantum entanglements and correlations distributed throughout an entire system. This concept accompanies the dynamics of thermalization in closed quantum systems, and has recently emerged as a powerful tool for characterizing chaos in black holes1–4. However, the direct experimental measurement

  • f quantum scrambling is difficult, owing to the exponential

complexity of ergodic many-body entangled states. One way to characterize quantum scrambling is to measure an out-of-time-

  • rdered correlation function (OTOC); however, because scrambling

leads to their decay, OTOCs do not generally discriminate between quantum scrambling and ordinary decoherence. Here we implement a quantum circuit that provides a positive test for the scrambling features of a given unitary process5,6. This approach conditionally teleports a quantum state through the circuit, providing an unambiguous test for whether scrambling has occurred, while simultaneously measuring an OTOC. We engineer quantum scrambling processes through a tunable three-qubit unitary

  • peration as part of a seven-qubit circuit on an ion trap quantum
  • computer. Measured teleportation fidelities are typically about 80

per cent, and enable us to experimentally bound the scrambling- induced decay of the corresponding OTOC measurement. The dynamics of strongly interacting quantum systems lead to the For example, non-unitary time-evolution arising from depolarization

  • r classical noise processes naturally lead the OTOC to decay, even in

the absence of quantum scrambling. A similar decay can also originate from even slight mismatches between the purported forward and back- wards time-evolution of W t ˆ ( ) (refs 6,16 and 24). Although full quantum tomography can in principle distinguish scrambling from decoherence and experimental noise, this requires a number of measurements that scales exponentially with system size and is thus impractical. In this work, we overcome this challenge and implement a quantum teleporation protocol that robustly distinguishes information scram- bling from both decoherence and experimental noise5,6. Using this pro- tocol, we demonstrate verifiable information scrambling in a family

  • f unitary circuits and provide a quantitative bound on the amount of

scrambling observed in the experiments. The intuition behind our approach lies in a re-interpretation of the black-hole information paradox9,10, under the assumption that the dynamics of the black hole can be modelled as a random unitary oper- ation U ˆ (Fig. 1). Schematically, an observer (Alice) throws a secret quantum state into a black hole, while an outside observer (Bob) attempts to reconstruct this state by collecting the Hawking radiation emitted at a later time1,10. An explicit decoding protocol has been recently proposed5,6, which enables Bob to decode Alice’s state using a quantum memory, an ancil-

Experiment of HP recovery protocol Nature 567 (7746), 61

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Firewall (Hayden-Preskill) in a laboratory

  • In a sense, Hayden-Preskill recovery is a firewall although it actually saves Alice.

LETTER

https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-019-0952-6

Verified quantum information scrambling

  • K. A. Landsman1*, C. Figgatt1,6, T. Schuster2, N. M. Linke1, B. Yoshida3, N. Y

. Yao2,4 & C. Monroe1,5 Quantum scrambling is the dispersal of local information into many-body quantum entanglements and correlations distributed throughout an entire system. This concept accompanies the dynamics of thermalization in closed quantum systems, and has recently emerged as a powerful tool for characterizing chaos in black holes1–4. However, the direct experimental measurement

  • f quantum scrambling is difficult, owing to the exponential

complexity of ergodic many-body entangled states. One way to characterize quantum scrambling is to measure an out-of-time-

  • rdered correlation function (OTOC); however, because scrambling

leads to their decay, OTOCs do not generally discriminate between quantum scrambling and ordinary decoherence. Here we implement a quantum circuit that provides a positive test for the scrambling features of a given unitary process5,6. This approach conditionally teleports a quantum state through the circuit, providing an unambiguous test for whether scrambling has occurred, while simultaneously measuring an OTOC. We engineer quantum scrambling processes through a tunable three-qubit unitary

  • peration as part of a seven-qubit circuit on an ion trap quantum
  • computer. Measured teleportation fidelities are typically about 80

per cent, and enable us to experimentally bound the scrambling- induced decay of the corresponding OTOC measurement. The dynamics of strongly interacting quantum systems lead to the For example, non-unitary time-evolution arising from depolarization

  • r classical noise processes naturally lead the OTOC to decay, even in

the absence of quantum scrambling. A similar decay can also originate from even slight mismatches between the purported forward and back- wards time-evolution of W t ˆ ( ) (refs 6,16 and 24). Although full quantum tomography can in principle distinguish scrambling from decoherence and experimental noise, this requires a number of measurements that scales exponentially with system size and is thus impractical. In this work, we overcome this challenge and implement a quantum teleporation protocol that robustly distinguishes information scram- bling from both decoherence and experimental noise5,6. Using this pro- tocol, we demonstrate verifiable information scrambling in a family

  • f unitary circuits and provide a quantitative bound on the amount of

scrambling observed in the experiments. The intuition behind our approach lies in a re-interpretation of the black-hole information paradox9,10, under the assumption that the dynamics of the black hole can be modelled as a random unitary oper- ation U ˆ (Fig. 1). Schematically, an observer (Alice) throws a secret quantum state into a black hole, while an outside observer (Bob) attempts to reconstruct this state by collecting the Hawking radiation emitted at a later time1,10. An explicit decoding protocol has been recently proposed5,6, which enables Bob to decode Alice’s state using a quantum memory, an ancil-

Experiment of HP recovery protocol Experiment of firewall ! Nature 567 (7746), 61

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Firewall vs. Scrambling

Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill State-independent interior operators Effect of infalling observer Resolution of the puzzle Discussions

1 2 4 5 6 7

Interior operator from HP recovery

3

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Before scrambling time

  • Before the scrambling time, Bob may still see the EPR pair. Why Alice

cannot see the EPR pair?

a) (b)

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Before scrambling time

  • Before the scrambling time, Bob may still see the EPR pair. Why Alice

cannot see the EPR pair?

a) (b)

  • Scenario 1

Alice see very close to the singularity.

ts D

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Before scrambling time

  • Before the scrambling time, Bob may still see the EPR pair. Why Alice

cannot see the EPR pair?

a) (b)

  • Scenario 1

Alice see very close to the singularity.

ts D

  • Scenario 2

The quality of the EPR pair becomes bad ? y T =

1 2πρ

To have small , we need s ∆t ' rS log rS '

where ρ

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Before scrambling time

  • Before the scrambling time, Bob may still see the EPR pair. Why Alice

cannot see the EPR pair?

a) (b)

  • Scenario 1

Alice see very close to the singularity.

ts D

  • Scenario 2

The quality of the EPR pair becomes bad ? y T =

1 2πρ

To have small , we need s ∆t ' rS log rS '

where ρ

  • Scenario 3

Even if they are not entangled, it won’t create a firewall (low energy)?

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Entanglement wedge reconstruction

a) (b)

  • Can we use the Hayden-Preskill recovery to construct the state-independent

interior operator in the entanglement wedge?

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Firewall in de Sitter Horizon ?

  • Firewall problem in de Sitter horizon? Our universe is too young…
  • Alice will leave a backreaction?
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Firewall in de Sitter Horizon ?

  • Firewall problem in de Sitter horizon? Our universe is too young…
  • Alice will leave a backreaction?

The shift is in the opposite direction!

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Firewall in de Sitter Horizon ?

  • Firewall problem in de Sitter horizon? Our universe is too young…
  • Alice will leave a backreaction?

The shift is in the opposite direction! black hole horizon cosmological horizon N S

r = ∞

singularity

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Firewall in de Sitter Horizon ?

  • Firewall problem in de Sitter horizon? Our universe is too young…
  • Alice will leave a backreaction?

The shift is in the opposite direction! Alice cannot really cross the de Sitter horizon? black hole horizon cosmological horizon N S

r = ∞

singularity

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References

2015 Chaos in quantum channel Hosur, Qi, Roberts, BY 2015 Chaos and complexity by design Roberts, BY 2017 Efficient decoding for Hayden-Preskill protocol Kitaev, BY 2018 Verified quantum information scrambling Landsman, BY et al 2018 Soft mode and interior operators in Hayden-Preskill thought experiment, BY 2019 Firewalls vs. scrambling, BY Relevant work 2012 Black hole entanglement and quantum error-correction, Verlinde-Verlinde

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“One-sided” traversable wormhole

  • Physical interpretation of the protocol to reconstruct the interior operator?

same states EPR

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“One-sided” traversable wormhole

  • Physical interpretation of the protocol to reconstruct the interior operator?

same states EPR

Alice jumps into a black hole and returns to the outside with the interior mode ?

D

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“One-sided” traversable wormhole

  • Physical interpretation of the protocol to reconstruct the interior operator?

same states EPR

U O

U † Alice jumps into a black hole and returns to the outside with the interior mode ?

D