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  1. Decoding protocol • Kitaev-BY : decay of OTOC implies “simple” recovery protocols. (2017) • Project onto the EPR pair. (probabilistic) D ¯ D • Deterministic protocol : incorporate Grover algorithm, unitarily restore in EPR. D ¯ D projection EPR ? EPR “Decoding protocol” “Traversable wormhole”

  2. Firewall vs. Scrambling 2 1 Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill 4 3 State-independent interior operators Interior operator from HP recovery (BY 2018) 6 5 Resolution of the puzzle Effect of infalling observer 7 Discussions Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

  3. Interior operators • Recall the Hayden-Preskill recovery ⇡ EPR EPR EPR EPR

  4. Interior operators • and the AMPS problem… C : Remaining BH D : Outgoing mode C R D D C R R : Radiation U O D O CR = U O U O EPR EPR

  5. Interior operators • and the AMPS problem… R C : Remaining BH D : Outgoing mode B C A D D C R R : Radiation U O D O CR = U O U O EPR EPR Split R into AB

  6. Interior operators • and the AMPS problem… R R C : Remaining BH D : Outgoing mode B B C A A D D C R : Radiation O CA U O D = U O U O EPR EPR Split R into AB Reconstruct on CA.

  7. Interior operators • and the AMPS problem… R R C : Remaining BH D : Outgoing mode B B C A A D D C R : Radiation O CA U O D = U O U O EPR EPR Split R into AB Rotate the figure… Reconstruct on CA.

  8. Interior operators • Interior partner in A (a few qubits in R) and C (remaining BH) e O CA = C : Remaining BH D : Outgoing mode R : Radiation

  9. Interior operators • Interior partner in A (a few qubits in R) and C (remaining BH) e O CA = C : Remaining BH D : Outgoing mode R : Radiation AMPS Reconstruct D (outgoing) from C (remaining BH) and A (early mode) HP Reconstruct A (early mode) from B (initial BH) and D (outgoing)

  10. Interior operators • Properties D, ¯ • You can choose any subsystem A from R to reconstruct D ) D, ¯ • Construction of is naturally fault-tolerant. D ) D, ¯ • is “almost” inside C with a few extra qubits from R. D ) C : Remaining BH D : The zone R : Radiation e =

  11. Interior operators • Properties D, ¯ • You can choose any subsystem A from R to reconstruct D ) D, ¯ • Construction of is naturally fault-tolerant. D ) D, ¯ • is “almost” inside C with a few extra qubits from R. D ) C : Remaining BH • Problems … D : The zone R : Radiation • Construction is state-dependent. ( I ⌦ K ) | EPR i e • Non-locality problem (use of A) =

  12. Some lesson

  13. Some lesson • Reconstruction of interior operators If Alice takes A, then Alice possesses the EPR pair If Alice didn’t take A, then Bob possesses the EPR pair Alice Bob AB : Radiation (R) C : remaining black hole D : outgoing mode

  14. Some lesson • Reconstruction of interior operators If Alice takes A, then Alice possesses the EPR pair If Alice didn’t take A, then Bob possesses the EPR pair Alice Bob AB : Radiation (R) C : remaining black hole D : outgoing mode • We can choose A to be any small subsystem !

  15. Some lesson • Reconstruction of interior operators If Alice takes A, then Alice possesses the EPR pair If Alice didn’t take A, then Bob possesses the EPR pair Alice Bob AB : Radiation (R) C : remaining black hole D : outgoing mode • We can choose A to be any small subsystem ! • Alice does not need to take A. She simply needs to fall into a black hole.

  16. Firewall vs. Scrambling 2 1 Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill 4 3 State-independent interior operators Interior operator from HP recovery (BY 2019) (BY 2018) 6 5 Resolution of the puzzle Effect of infalling observer 7 Discussions Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

  17. “Generic” two-sided “AdS” black hole • Generic two-sided AdS BH ( I ⌦ K ) | EPR i U EPR Generic two-sided AdS = K is arbitrary, BH not evaporating

  18. “Generic” two-sided “AdS” black hole • Generic two-sided AdS BH ( I ⌦ K ) | EPR i EPR boundary modes A t : propagating modes other modes B t : modes at stretched horizo Generic two-sided AdS = K is arbitrary, BH not evaporating

  19. “Generic” two-sided “AdS” black hole • Generic two-sided AdS BH ( I ⌦ K ) | EPR i Prepare ancillary EPR and apply SWAP SWAP EPR (a) EPR boundary modes A t : propagating modes other modes B t : modes at stretched horizo Generic two-sided AdS = K is arbitrary, BH not evaporating

  20. “Generic” two-sided “AdS” black hole • Generic two-sided AdS BH ( I ⌦ K ) | EPR i Prepare ancillary EPR and apply SWAP SWAP EPR (a) EPR boundary modes A t : propagating modes EPR other modes B t : modes at stretched horizo Generic two-sided AdS = K is arbitrary, BH not evaporating

  21. “Generic” two-sided “AdS” black hole • Generic two-sided AdS BH ( I ⌦ K ) | EPR i Prepare ancillary EPR and apply SWAP SWAP EPR (a) EPR boundary modes A t : propagating modes EPR other modes B t : modes at stretched horizo D ¯ • can be reconstructed on and A t D C D CR without ever accessing R Generic two-sided AdS = K is arbitrary, BH not evaporating

  22. State-independence EPR

  23. State-independence • Construction does not depend on K EPR

  24. State-independence • Construction does not depend on K | 0 i ⊗ n EPR

  25. State-independence • Construction does not depend on K • Works for one-sided BH too. | 0 i ⊗ n EPR

  26. Evaporating black hole R t : high-energy radiation A t : modes on the zone B t : modes at stretched horizon

  27. Evaporating black hole • Use not A t R R t : high-energy radiation A t : modes on the zone B t : modes at stretched horizon

  28. Codeword subspaces • State-independence inside codeword subspace “S-qubit” toy model BH in H code . Coarse-grained Hilbert space e ≈ 2 S BH -dimensional , determined by M, J, Q… in H code . : wavefunctions with the same classical geometry

  29. Codeword subspaces • State-independence inside codeword subspace “S-qubit” toy model BH in H code . Coarse-grained Hilbert space e ≈ 2 S BH -dimensional , determined by M, J, Q… in H code . : wavefunctions with the same classical geometry • Eigenstate Thermalization Hypothesis (ETH)

  30. Codeword subspaces • State-independence inside codeword subspace “S-qubit” toy model BH in H code . Coarse-grained Hilbert space e ≈ 2 S BH -dimensional , determined by M, J, Q… in H code . : wavefunctions with the same classical geometry • Eigenstate Thermalization Hypothesis (ETH) • Claim: state-independence for black holes initially in thermal equilibrium. er ≈ r S log r S er ≈ r S thermalization time scrambling time

  31. Firewall vs. Scrambling 2 1 Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill 4 3 State-independent interior operators Interior operator from HP recovery 6 5 Resolution of the puzzle Effect of infalling observer 7 Discussions Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

  32. Including Alice • Consider the eternal AdS. Bob’s can verify entanglement on from the boundary. D ˜ D

  33. Including Alice • Consider the eternal AdS. Bob’s can verify entanglement on from the boundary. D ˜ D • Add an apparatus M which travels along with A. M becomes gravitational shockwave. Bob’s entanglement is disturbed. Due to decay of OTOCs.

  34. Including Alice • Consider the eternal AdS. Bob’s can verify entanglement on from the boundary. D ˜ D • Add an apparatus M which travels along with A. M becomes gravitational shockwave. Bob’s entanglement is disturbed. Due to decay of OTOCs. • Outgoing mode D is disentangled from R (RHS) ?

  35. Including Alice • Consider the eternal AdS. Bob’s can verify entanglement on from the boundary. D ˜ D • Add an apparatus M which travels along with A. M becomes gravitational shockwave. Bob’s entanglement is disturbed. Due to decay of OTOCs. • Outgoing mode D is disentangled from R (RHS) ? “Proof” Small OTOC I ( C, D ) ⇡ max ) = D is not entangled with R EPR

  36. Including Alice • Consider the eternal AdS. Bob’s can verify entanglement on from the boundary. D ˜ D • Add an apparatus M which travels along with A. M becomes gravitational shockwave. Bob’s entanglement is disturbed. Due to decay of OTOCs. • Outgoing mode D is disentangled from R (RHS) ? “Proof” Small OTOC I ( C, D ) ⇡ max ) = D is not entangled with R EPR • Works for black holes on flat space. (Follows from QM and OTOC decay).

  37. Sending probes • Shoot a probe mode into the BH (mimics the reconstruction protocol)

  38. Sending probes • Shoot a probe mode into the BH (mimics the reconstruction protocol) • OTOC decay implies , so D is not entangled with R. I (2) ( D, EC ) ⇡ max

  39. Sending probes • Shoot a probe mode into the BH (mimics the reconstruction protocol) • OTOC decay implies , so D is not entangled with R. I (2) ( D, EC ) ⇡ max • Outgoing mode is disentangled from early radiation no matter how Alice falls in ! • Decay of OTOC is universal gravitational phenomena. • Interior operator does not depend on R, but depends on the observer.

  40. Sending probes • Shoot a probe mode into the BH (mimics the reconstruction protocol) • OTOC decay implies , so D is not entangled with R. I (2) ( D, EC ) ⇡ max • Outgoing mode is disentangled from early radiation no matter how Alice falls in ! • Decay of OTOC is universal gravitational phenomena. • Interior operator does not depend on R, but depends on the observer. • Some caveats This requires scrambling time separation. - A (or E) needs to be as large as D. -

  41. Bulk interpretations • Treat Alice as a shockwave ˜ without Alice D D

  42. Bulk interpretations • Treat Alice as a shockwave ˜ with Alice without Alice D D D D

  43. Bulk interpretations • Treat Alice as a shockwave ˜ with Alice without Alice D D D D • Interior operator is outside the causal influence of RHS. Alice won’t be affected D by RHS.

  44. Bulk interpretations • Treat Alice as a shockwave ˜ with Alice without Alice D D D D • Interior operator is outside the causal influence of RHS. Alice won’t be affected D by RHS. Resolution of non-locality problem • Alice sees a “phantom” of . Non-locality problem can be resolved. ˜ D

  45. Firewall vs. Scrambling 2 1 Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill 4 3 State-independent interior operators Interior operator from HP recovery 6 5 Resolution of the puzzle Effect of infalling observer 7 Discussions Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

  46. AMPS thought experiment • Original argument outgoing mode early radiation D

  47. AMPS thought experiment • Original argument outgoing mode early radiation D ˜ D entangled

  48. AMPS thought experiment • Original argument entangled D outgoing mode BH early radiation D ˜ D entangled

  49. AMPS thought experiment • Original argument entangled firewall ? D outgoing mode BH early radiation D ˜ D entangled

  50. AMPS thought experiment • Some previous proposals… entangled D outgoing mode BH early radiation D ˜ D entangled

  51. AMPS thought experiment • Some previous proposals… entangled D outgoing mode BH early radiation D same ? ˜ D entangled

  52. AMPS thought experiment • Some previous proposals… entangled D outgoing mode BH early radiation D same ? shockwave ? ˜ D entangled

  53. AMPS thought experiment • Our proposal entangled D outgoing mode BH early radiation D ˜ D

  54. AMPS thought experiment • Our proposal entangled D outgoing mode BH early radiation D Alice ˜ D entangled

  55. Can we create a firewall? • Bob can stop Alice from seeing the EPR by preventing her from jumping into the BH.

  56. Can we create a firewall? • Bob can stop Alice from seeing the EPR by preventing her from jumping into the BH. Perform the Hayden-Preskill recovery !

  57. Can we create a firewall? • Bob can stop Alice from seeing the EPR by preventing her from jumping into the BH. Perform the Hayden-Preskill recovery ! • Recall the recovery protocol by BY and Kitaev… Verification of entanglement. D ¯ D projection EPR EPR

  58. Can we create a firewall? • Bob can stop Alice from seeing the EPR by preventing her from jumping into the BH. Perform the Hayden-Preskill recovery ! • Recall the recovery protocol by BY and Kitaev… Verification of entanglement. D ¯ D • Bob’s verification of the EPR pair performs the HP recovery projection EPR EPR

  59. Can we create a firewall? • Bob can stop Alice from seeing the EPR by preventing her from jumping into the BH. Perform the Hayden-Preskill recovery ! • Recall the recovery protocol by BY and Kitaev… Verification of entanglement. D ¯ D • Bob’s verification of the EPR pair performs the HP recovery • Bob cannot perform HP recovery by acting on the early radiation only. projection EPR EPR

  60. Firewall (Hayden-Preskill) in a laboratory • In a sense, Hayden-Preskill recovery is a firewall although it actually saves Alice. Experiment of HP recovery protocol Nature 567 (7746), 61 LETTER https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-019-0952-6 Verified quantum information scrambling K. A. Landsman 1 * , C. Figgatt 1,6 , T. Schuster 2 , N. M. Linke 1 , B. Yoshida 3 , N. Y . Yao 2,4 & C. Monroe 1,5 Quantum scrambling is the dispersal of local information into For example, non-unitary time-evolution arising from depolarization many-body quantum entanglements and correlations distributed or classical noise processes naturally lead the OTOC to decay, even in throughout an entire system. This concept accompanies the the absence of quantum scrambling. A similar decay can also originate dynamics of thermalization in closed quantum systems, and has from even slight mismatches between the purported forward and back- ˆ ( ) (refs 6,16 and 24 ). Although full quantum recently emerged as a powerful tool for characterizing chaos in wards time-evolution of W t black holes 1–4 . However, the direct experimental measurement tomography can in principle distinguish scrambling from decoherence of quantum scrambling is difficult, owing to the exponential and experimental noise, this requires a number of measurements that complexity of ergodic many-body entangled states. One way to scales exponentially with system size and is thus impractical. characterize quantum scrambling is to measure an out-of-time- In this work, we overcome this challenge and implement a quantum ordered correlation function (OTOC); however, because scrambling teleporation protocol that robustly distinguishes information scram- bling from both decoherence and experimental noise 5,6 . Using this pro- leads to their decay, OTOCs do not generally discriminate between quantum scrambling and ordinary decoherence. Here we implement tocol, we demonstrate verifiable information scrambling in a family a quantum circuit that provides a positive test for the scrambling of unitary circuits and provide a quantitative bound on the amount of features of a given unitary process 5,6 . This approach conditionally scrambling observed in the experiments. teleports a quantum state through the circuit, providing an The intuition behind our approach lies in a re-interpretation of the black-hole information paradox 9,10 , under the assumption that the unambiguous test for whether scrambling has occurred, while simultaneously measuring an OTOC. We engineer quantum dynamics of the black hole can be modelled as a random unitary oper- ˆ (Fig. 1). Schematically, an observer (Alice) throws a secret scrambling processes through a tunable three-qubit unitary ation U operation as part of a seven-qubit circuit on an ion trap quantum quantum state into a black hole, while an outside observer (Bob) computer. Measured teleportation fidelities are typically about 80 attempts to reconstruct this state by collecting the Hawking radiation emitted at a later time 1,10 . per cent, and enable us to experimentally bound the scrambling- An explicit decoding protocol has been recently proposed 5,6 , which induced decay of the corresponding OTOC measurement. The dynamics of strongly interacting quantum systems lead to the enables Bob to decode Alice’s state using a quantum memory, an ancil-

  61. Firewall (Hayden-Preskill) in a laboratory • In a sense, Hayden-Preskill recovery is a firewall although it actually saves Alice. Experiment of HP recovery protocol Experiment of firewall ! Nature 567 (7746), 61 LETTER https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-019-0952-6 Verified quantum information scrambling K. A. Landsman 1 * , C. Figgatt 1,6 , T. Schuster 2 , N. M. Linke 1 , B. Yoshida 3 , N. Y . Yao 2,4 & C. Monroe 1,5 Quantum scrambling is the dispersal of local information into For example, non-unitary time-evolution arising from depolarization many-body quantum entanglements and correlations distributed or classical noise processes naturally lead the OTOC to decay, even in throughout an entire system. This concept accompanies the the absence of quantum scrambling. A similar decay can also originate dynamics of thermalization in closed quantum systems, and has from even slight mismatches between the purported forward and back- ˆ ( ) (refs 6,16 and 24 ). Although full quantum recently emerged as a powerful tool for characterizing chaos in wards time-evolution of W t black holes 1–4 . However, the direct experimental measurement tomography can in principle distinguish scrambling from decoherence of quantum scrambling is difficult, owing to the exponential and experimental noise, this requires a number of measurements that complexity of ergodic many-body entangled states. One way to scales exponentially with system size and is thus impractical. characterize quantum scrambling is to measure an out-of-time- In this work, we overcome this challenge and implement a quantum ordered correlation function (OTOC); however, because scrambling teleporation protocol that robustly distinguishes information scram- bling from both decoherence and experimental noise 5,6 . Using this pro- leads to their decay, OTOCs do not generally discriminate between quantum scrambling and ordinary decoherence. Here we implement tocol, we demonstrate verifiable information scrambling in a family a quantum circuit that provides a positive test for the scrambling of unitary circuits and provide a quantitative bound on the amount of features of a given unitary process 5,6 . This approach conditionally scrambling observed in the experiments. teleports a quantum state through the circuit, providing an The intuition behind our approach lies in a re-interpretation of the black-hole information paradox 9,10 , under the assumption that the unambiguous test for whether scrambling has occurred, while simultaneously measuring an OTOC. We engineer quantum dynamics of the black hole can be modelled as a random unitary oper- ˆ (Fig. 1). Schematically, an observer (Alice) throws a secret scrambling processes through a tunable three-qubit unitary ation U operation as part of a seven-qubit circuit on an ion trap quantum quantum state into a black hole, while an outside observer (Bob) computer. Measured teleportation fidelities are typically about 80 attempts to reconstruct this state by collecting the Hawking radiation emitted at a later time 1,10 . per cent, and enable us to experimentally bound the scrambling- An explicit decoding protocol has been recently proposed 5,6 , which induced decay of the corresponding OTOC measurement. The dynamics of strongly interacting quantum systems lead to the enables Bob to decode Alice’s state using a quantum memory, an ancil-

  62. Firewall vs. Scrambling 2 1 Review of Firewall argument Review of Hayden-Preskill 4 3 State-independent interior operators Interior operator from HP recovery 6 5 Resolution of the puzzle Effect of infalling observer 7 Discussions Beni Yoshida (Perimeter Institute)

  63. Before scrambling time • Before the scrambling time, Bob may still see the EPR pair. Why Alice cannot see the EPR pair? a) (b)

  64. Before scrambling time • Before the scrambling time, Bob may still see the EPR pair. Why Alice cannot see the EPR pair? • Scenario 1 Alice see very close to the singularity. ts D a) (b)

  65. Before scrambling time • Before the scrambling time, Bob may still see the EPR pair. Why Alice cannot see the EPR pair? • Scenario 1 Alice see very close to the singularity. ts D • Scenario 2 1 The quality of the EPR pair becomes bad ? y T = 2 πρ where ρ To have small , we need s ∆ t ' r S log r S ' a) (b)

  66. Before scrambling time • Before the scrambling time, Bob may still see the EPR pair. Why Alice cannot see the EPR pair? • Scenario 1 Alice see very close to the singularity. ts D • Scenario 2 1 The quality of the EPR pair becomes bad ? y T = 2 πρ where ρ To have small , we need s ∆ t ' r S log r S ' a) (b) • Scenario 3 Even if they are not entangled, it won’t create a firewall (low energy)?

  67. Entanglement wedge reconstruction • Can we use the Hayden-Preskill recovery to construct the state-independent interior operator in the entanglement wedge? a) (b)

  68. Firewall in de Sitter Horizon ? • Firewall problem in de Sitter horizon? Our universe is too young… • Alice will leave a backreaction?

  69. Firewall in de Sitter Horizon ? • Firewall problem in de Sitter horizon? Our universe is too young… • Alice will leave a backreaction? The shift is in the opposite direction!

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