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Experience from policy makers/data users on the impact of changes in labour indicators on policy formulation and monitoring Nguyn Th Vit Nga General Statistics Office Vietnam 1 Content Introduction 1. Some findings 2. Conclusion


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Experience from policy makers/data users on the impact of changes in labour indicators on policy formulation and monitoring

Nguyễn Thị Việt Nga General Statistics Office Vietnam

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Content

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Introduction

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Some findings

3.

Conclusion & moving forward

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  • I. INTRODUCTIONS
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  • 2. 19th International Conference of Labour

Statisticians (19th ICLS )

 19th ICLS -October 2013  • Agreed new standards to replace existing

standards regarding employment and unemployment which have been used since 1982

 • New standards developed after wide

international consultation between 2008 and 2013

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2.19th ICLS

 – New definition of employment (19th ICLS) –

focus on work for pay or profit

 • Previous definition (13th ICLS) included some

unpaid forms of work but was applied inconsistently across countries

 • In theory expect to see lower employment

estimates but impact can be limited in many countries

 – Unemployment definition unchanged  • Actually, once employment estimate is lower –

unemployment estimate might be higher

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  • 1. Background

 ILO pilot study project: Vietnam was one to be

selected in 10 pilot countries

 The 1st pilot in 2 provinces in Labor Force Survey in

2015-2016

 The GSO continued to conduct a pilot survey on the

application of ICLS 19 in the national level by 2017

 The purpose of the pilot survey is to compare and

estimate differences in data on indicators when applying the 19 ICLS standard against the ICLS 13; This will serve as a basis for analyzing, evaluating and recommending users of information when ICLS 19 is widely applied globally.

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  • II. SOME KEY FINDINGS
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  • 1. Labour force distribution

51.9 52.1 51.7 51.2 52.0 52.6 48.1 47.9 48.3 48.8 48.0 47.4

ICLS 13 ILCL 19 ICLS 13 ILCL 19 ICLS 13 ILCL 19 Toàn quốc Thành thị Nông thôn

54 823.4 51 998.6 17 647.3 17 405.1 37 176.5 34 593.5

Labor force distribution by sex for ICLS 13 and ICLS 19

Whole country Urban Rural

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Labor force by age groups

15-19 20-24 25-29 30-34 35-39 40-44 45-49 50-54 55-59 60-64 65+ ICLS 13 4.3 9.5 11.3 12.4 12.2 12.2 11.4 10.4 7.6 4.6 4.0 ICLS 19 4.1 8.9 11.7 12.6 12.2 11.9 11.7 10.6 8.1 4.6 3.5

ICLS 13 ICLS 19

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Rate of trained labor in urban / rural areas, ICLS 13 and ICLS 19

21.4 37.8 13.9 22.9 38.2 15.2 0.0 5.0 10.0 15.0 20.0 25.0 30.0 35.0 40.0 Toàn quốc Thành thị Nông thôn ICLS 13 ICLS 19

Whole country Urban Rural

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The structure of employed labors according to job status

Whole nation Urban Rural Male Female Skill labors Unskill labors

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Labor structure by working time and average working hours in reference week

22.8 20.8 23.7 20.5 25.2 41.1 45.7 38.8 40.3 42 36.1 33.5 37.5 39.2 32.8 20 40 60 80 100 120 Whole nation Urban Rural Male Female under 35 hours 35-48 hours more than 48 hours

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Average income of wage workers by urban-rural, sex, skill or un skill workers

6277 4898 5740 5101 6842 4646 1000 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 8000 Urban Rural Make Female Skill labors Unskill labor By urban- Rural By sex By skill or unskill labors

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The percentage of people aged 15 and over is engaged in producing products for themselves and their families uses

25.3 8.8 34.5 22.6 27.9 26.6 8.9 35.5 23 30.5 39.2 14.1 52.5 36.9 41.3 21 8.2 30 19.9 21.6 10 20 30 40 50 60 Total Urban Rural Male Female Total Urban Rural Male Female Total Urban Rural Male Female Total Urban Rural Male Female Total Employment Unemployment No economic activity

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The percentage of people aged 15 and over is engaged in producing products for their own uses in households (%)

25.3 8.8 34.5 22.6 27.9 26.6 8.9 35.5 23 30.5 39.2 14.1 52.5 36.9 41.3 21 8.2 30 19.9 21.6 10 20 30 40 50 60 Total Urban Rural Male Female Total Urban Rural Male Female Total Urban Rural Male Female Total Urban Rural Male Female Total Employment Unemployment No economic activity

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Average hours worked per week to produce household used products (hours)

17.1 12.9 17.7 17.5 16.8 13.6 9.6 14.2 13.6 13.6 28.3 19.3 29.3 30.8 26.2 25.1 19.8 26.1 27.9 23.3

  • 5.0

10.0 15.0 20.0 25.0 30.0 35.0 Chung Thành thị Nông thôn Nam Nữ Chung Thành thị Nông thôn Nam Nữ Chung Thành thị Nông thôn Nam Nữ Chung Thành thị Nông thôn Nam Nữ Chung Có việc làm Thất nghiệp Không hoạt động kinh tế

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The percentage of people aged 15 and over is involved in the management, maintenance and care of the family

80.6 56.7 71.2 72.0 71.6 95.9 72.5 83.5 87.0 84.7 95.6 62.8 78.7 78.1 78.5 90.7 61.7 76.8 76.5 76.7

  • 10.0

20.0 30.0 40.0 50.0 60.0 70.0 80.0 90.0 100.0

Nữ Nam Nông thôn Thành thị Chung Nữ Nam Nông thôn Thành thị Chung Nữ Nam Nông thôn Thành thị Chung Nữ Nam Nông thôn Thành thị Chung Không hoạt động kinh tế Thất nghiệp Có việc làm Chung

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Average hours for housework per week

19.8 20.8 18.9 13.1 23.9 18.6 19.1 18.2 13.1 22.5 25.4 26.9 24.6 14.2 33.6 22.1 24.0 20.2 13.1 26.0

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10.0 15.0 20.0 25.0 30.0 35.0 40.0

Chung Thành thị Nông thôn Nam Nữ Chung Thành thị Nông thôn Nam Nữ Chung Thành thị Nông thôn Nam Nữ Chung Thành thị Nông thôn Nam Nữ Chung Có việc làm Thất nghiệp Không hoạt động kinh tế

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  • III. CONCLUSION &

MOVING FORWARD

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Conclusion & moving forward

 In summary, the conceptual framework for employment

statistics of the 19 ICLS attempts to clarify what the definition

  • f employment is. It is a job done for the purpose of getting

paid, earned wage/salary.

 Labor activities that create self-consumed products are non-

profitable or unpaid activities, salaries will not be considered as employment because it is not linked to market factors. Employees who work for the purpose of making products for themselves and their families will not be considered employed.

 Vietnam is still an agricultural country with a lot of self-

employed people living to support the whole family. The fact that these people are unemployed is still controversial not only in Viet Nam but also in some developing countries in the world

 Although home-made/ self consumed products are still

significant for the livelihoods of a large part of the population, especially in remote and isolated areas. However, the contribution of this product to the GDP growth of the country is declining

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Conclusion & moving forward (cont.)

 As recommended by the ILO, the transition from

the old conceptual framework to the new conceptual framework requires a roadmap.

 The

Vietnam General Statistics Office has followed the recommended roadmaps by implementing three pilot surveys, applying new recommendations at different scales and at national wide, across the country.

 Viet Nam already has sufficient conditions to

apply the ICLS 19. The GSO is going to apply this new conceptual framework in the LFS 2019.

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Conclusion & moving forward (cont.)

 It is necessary to have Consultation with experts and data users

  • n the strengths and limitations of the ICLS 19 framework based
  • n the results of the ICLS 19 pilot survey., and apply

international standards with Vietnam contexts.

 Carry out a campaign of public dissemination, dissemination,

interpretation, and recommendation to the general public and data users on the change in scope, concept of ICLS 19 before and after the official adoption of this conceptual framework.

 Although the producers of self-producedproducts are not

employed, ILO experts also assist countries in developing a module to collect information on production activities. Self- produced products of the laborers. GSO should carefully study these contents in order to develop a questionnaire that is suitable for Vietnam and meet the need to measure labor standards in accordance with international standards while ensuring that "no one behind “.

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