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Chris Stevenson, Esq. November 5, 2015 1 C Corps Pros : a) Venture Capital: Venture funds are usually partnerships i. Cant invest in S Corps (s/h restrictions on pship or foreign investors s/h; no prefd stock) ii. Investing in


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Chris Stevenson, Esq.

November 5, 2015

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  • C Corps Pros:

a) Venture Capital: Venture funds are usually partnerships i. Can’t invest in S Corps (s/h restrictions on pship or foreign investors s/h; no pref’d stock) ii. Investing in pships can create tax filing obligations for foreign investors in venture fund, UBTI for nonprofit investors in venture fund. b) Qual. Stock Options: C Corps (and S Corp) can issue. LLCs cannot (but can issue profits interest). c) Tax When Cash (Dividend) is Received:

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  • C Corps Cons:

a) Double Taxation a) Losses: No flow through treatment

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  • S Corps Pros:

a) Avoid FICA: only on “reasonable” wages, not distributions b) Simpler: bylaws, Form 1120-S. c) Possible Tax-Free Exit: S and C Corp owners may be able to avoid paying taxes on exit if the business is acquired in a 368 tax-free re-organization

  • S Corps Cons: Many (losses, taxable property distributions, etc)
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  • LLC Pros:

a) Flexibility: non pro-rata allocations b) Easier to Deduct Losses: basis credit c) Tax-Free Distributions of Appreciate Property: both in- service and liquidating distributions.

  • LLC Cons:

a) FICA: participating owners owe FICA on all earnings b) Expensive to Do It Right: Operating agreement; Form 1065

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FICA Tax Rates: >Soc. Sec. 12.4% of first $118,500; >Medicare: 2.9% of all; plus 0.9% ($200K single, $250K joint) Rule: Participating LLC owners subject to FICA on all earnings; S Corp owner subject to FICA solely on “reasonable” wages. Example: Chris owns clothing store that has $100K of profit after paying all expenses except for Chris’s time/effort. Chris determines $70K of wages is reasonable. He avoids approximately $4,590 of FICA on $30K of excess distributions ($30k x 15.3%). Roth IRA to supplement lower Soc. Sec wage base?

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Issue: Can I contribute property or services in exchange for S Corp shares or LLC equity tax-free? Svcs for Vested Equity/Shares: always taxable to service provider Property for Equity/Shares: Can be done tax-free but easier with an LLC (no 80% control requirement). Example: Chris and Jill form C&J. Chris contributes building with $1K basis, $10K FMV. Jill agrees to serve as chef. Both receive 50%.........

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Jill’s Shares/Equity: Taxable compensation (LLC or S Corp). Chris’s Interest: LLC: Tax-free. §721 no control requirement. S Corp: Taxable to Chris. §351 requires transferors of “property” to control (80%) the corp immediately after. >Cure: Have Jill transfer property of “relatively small value” (10%) with her service. Rev. Proc. 77-37.

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Other Formation Notes:

  • Chris’s Basis: Transferred basis for tax-free contributions. Chris’s

cost basis in the LLC would be $1K (same as basis of building).

  • Tax-Free Exception for Excess Liabilities: If the building was

subject to $2K liability assumed by entity, Chris subject to tax on $1K excess and his basis in the LLC/S corp interest would be $0.

  • Tax-Free Exception for Boot: Taxable to the extent of FMV of any

“boot” Chris receives (cash, other property).

  • LLC “Contribution-Distribution” Rule: If LLC distributed building

to Jill within 7 years, Chris may be taxed on appreciation

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Profits: Advantage LLC

  • Profits taxed even if cash is not distributed (LLC or S)
  • S Corp Pro-Rata Limitation: 50% owner must be allocated 50% of

all profits, losses, deductions, credits, etc

  • LLC Allows Special Allocations:

Example: Chris and Jill form C&J LLC. Chris contributes $1K; Jill contributes know-how. Both receive 50% equity but LLC OA provides Chris is allocated first $1,000 of income ; thereafter all profits are split 50:50.

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Losses: HUGE Advantage LLC** >Basis is very important for both S Corp and LLC Owners:

  • Limits ability to receive tax-free distributions of cash
  • Limits ability to deduct losses (ordinary or capital) on owners

personal tax returns. >Basis consists of:

  • 1. Financial investment in LLC/S Corp (e.g. $10K Cash)
  • 2. Owner loans directly to LLC/S Corp
  • 3. Owner’s share of LLC’s Debts to 3rd P: LLC Only*****
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Losses: HUGE Advantage LLC** Example: Chris and Jill form C&J LLC, each contributing $50. C&J acquires a building for $100 down payment and C&J takes out a $900 mortgage. As and LLC, Chris and Jill each have $500 of basis. If the LLC has losses, Chris and Jill will be able to deduct up to $500 each on personal income tax returns assuming passive activity and at risk rules (see qualified non-recourse financing) are met. If the business was formed as an S Corp, each would have $50 of basis, limiting the ability to deduct losses. Any un-allowed losses would be held in suspense until sufficient basis (e.g. the building is sold). Any un-allowed losses in suspense when Chris or Jill sells S Corp shares are lost.

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Distributions: HUGE Advantage LLC** Rule: Never put appreciating property in an LLC**

  • LLC’s allow for tax-free distributions of appreciated property to
  • wners (in-service; at liquidation).

Example: Chris and Jill form C&J LLC, each contributing $50. C&J acquires a building for $100, plus a $900 mortgage. Each have a $500 basis. The building increases in value to $1,500. Chris and Jill want to own the building as individuals. C&J distributes the building tax-free to Chris and Jill. Chris and Jill inherit C&J’s cost basis in the building of $1,000. The basis in the LLC interests are reduced from $500 to $0.

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Distributions: HUGE Advantage LLC** S Corp Example: Same facts but C&J is an S Corp. Chris and Jill would have only $50 of basis. The distribution of the building is treated as a deemed sale and C&J incurs $500 of gain ($1,500 - $1,000) allocated to Chris and Jill.

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C Corp: Capital Gain

  • §1202 QSBS Gain Exclusion: between 50% and 100% of gain,

depending upon acquisition date. Remaining gain taxed at 28%. S Corp: Capital Gain LLC: Capital gain except portion of the gain attributable to “hot assets” (inventory, A/R) taxed at ordinary rates and depreciation recapture on building taxed at 25%.

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C Corp Converts to S Corp: (possible tax)

  • Generally tax-free except:
  • 1. LIFO Recapture: §1363(d)
  • 2. Built-In Gain if Assets sold w/in 10 years: §1374.

Example: C&J has building worth $10K with a $1K cost basis. C&J converts to an S Corp. If C&J sells the building during next 10 years, the S Corp pays a tax on up to $9K of gain and S Corp shareholders pay tax on next gain ($9K – tax paid by S Corp).

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C Corp Converts to LLC: (double tax unless no appreciation)

  • Corp pays tax on appreciate assets
  • Shareholders pay tax on deemed liquidation.

Example: Chris and Jill convert Restaurant C Corp into Restaurant

  • LLC. They did not invest any of their money. Business paid $100K

for assets now worth $1.1M. At conversion, business pays 35% tax rate on $1M appreciation ($350K), there is a deemed taxable distribution of $750K ($1.1M - $350K taxes) to Chris and Jill. Chris and Jill owe capital gains on the $750K distribution.

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  • Health Insurance by LLC/Corp to 2% Owner-EE:

LLC: 1) Taxable income to owner but owner gets an above the line deduction on his/her personal income tax return if not eligible for coverage through spouse. §162(l)(2)(B). 2) Subject to self-employment tax. §162(l)(4). S Corp Owner (2%): 1) W-2 taxable income with corresponding above the line

  • deduction. §162(l)(2)(B).

2)**Not subject to FICA.

  • SMLLC: Disregarded Entity
  • QSSS: Disregarded Entity; S Corp owned 100% by an S Copr.
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  • C Corps: Venture Capital
  • S Corps: Avoid FICA
  • LLCs:
  • Non pro-rata allocations
  • Easier to deduct losses*
  • Tax-free distributions of appreciated property*

*Always put appreciating property in an LLC

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Questions? Chris Stevenson, Esq cstevenson@dwmlaw.com

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