Why we DONT want/need an educonf GN3 service Peter Szegedi 19 - - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

Why we DON’T want/need an educonf GN3 service

Peter Szegedi 19 October 2010

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NOTE Conclusions do NOT necessarily reflect the general

• pinion of the individuals in this group!

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At least, we tried to come up with reasonable arguments against a potential GN3 service

The Method

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Strengths Weaknesses Opportunities Threats

SWOT analysis

The Problem

Challenge: Make it easier, make it work!

Users want to have it now, the easiest way, preferably from desktop, without any specific technical knowledge/details/etc.

Do we need any pan-European level, unified service to solve ”the problem”? (to be sceptical) NO, we don’t because...

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The Discussion

• 1. The basics don’t work
• Service providers (NRENs) should solve the technical

issues of their national services first!

• Not to build in barriers, of course...
• Need a ”channel to discuss”, share

knowledge/experience , BUT do not need any service activity

• 2. Sustainability of VC services is the key
• Has to be ”self-funded” by NRENs in a long term
• Makes it difficult to (temporarily) pull it under GN3

and change the model (if needed) later on

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The Discussion

• 3. National VC services’ reputation and branding
• NRENs want to promote and sell their own services

in the first place

• No new service brand should appear on the end-

users side

• 4. Pan-European helpdesk service
• Native language, local knowledge, 24/7 – perhaps
• ut-sourced...
• Even no common terminology
• ”Makes no sense on pan-European level”

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The Discussion

• 5. Common booking system
• One-to-one contracts are needed between

NRENs in order to use each others resources

• Easily get over-provisioned set of resources
• NRENs do their ”bookings very differently”,

hard to keep them up-to-date

• ”Not possible to change the world in 6 months”
• BTW, just get a booking system from someone

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The Discussion

• 6. Phonebook service
• Typical workflow: end-user approaches the
• ther end-user and negotiate on the system to

be used (”end-to-end signalling”)

• Knowing the system and start finding end-users
• n that system sounds to be artificial
• Perhaps not everyone wants to be in ”the

directory”, anyway

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Conclusions

One-to-one contracts (peering) between NRENs Negotiations on the mutual use of resources Easier to harmonise things on one-to-one basis than in pan-European level Users shouldn’t be confused by yet an other brand – NRENs can sell their own service as is (whatever happens in the background) No way to go against Skype – Is there enough user/demand for high-end telepresence, etc...?

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