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pNFS Access Permissions Check draft-faibish-nfsv4-pnfs-access-permissions-check-03.txt IETF 78 NFSv4 WG Meeting, July 28, 2010 Sorin Faibish sfaibish@emc.com David Black - EMC Mike Eisler - NetApp Jason Glasgow - Google Problem Statement


  1. pNFS Access Permissions Check draft-faibish-nfsv4-pnfs-access-permissions-check-03.txt IETF 78 NFSv4 WG Meeting, July 28, 2010 Sorin Faibish sfaibish@emc.com David Black - EMC Mike Eisler - NetApp Jason Glasgow - Google

  2. Problem Statement Client  pNFS clients receives valid layout to a DS but cannot access data server  MDS has no information about why client is doing all I/O through server  This is a serious scalability problem for pNFS defeating it’s purpose Storage-access pNFS protocol protocol X X Metadata Server Control protocol Data Servers 2 IETF78 NFSv4 WG, 07/28/2010

  3. Changes from -02 version  Use additional layout return types  Drop approach of extending layout-type-specific layout return data  Extend use of layout return types to cover any loss of client to data server connectivity  Not just access permission issues  Example: Partial network outage  Single op can report multiple inaccessible data servers  Drop the callback  Removes server ability to ask clients to check device access 3 IETF78 NFSv4 WG, 07/28/2010

  4. To Do list  Client guidance on when to report problems Client should try a few times before report  Report will be treated as serious/persistent   NFS4ERR_PERM was misused and will be replaced with NFS4ERR_ACCESS  List NFS errors that can be used  REQUEST: Accept as WG draft 4 IETF78 NFSv4 WG, 07/28/2010

  5. Questions for discussion  Label allowed NFS errors as MANDATORY vs. OPTIONAL? Purpose of doing this?   Dealing with problem resolution How does MDS or client find out?  No protocol mechanisms to detect  restored data server access in -03  Extend to report SCSI errors? Recommendation: No.  5 IETF78 NFSv4 WG, 07/28/2010

  6. Acknoledgements Thanks to: David Black for help with the cleanup of language and nits Jason Glasgow for the implementation details Tom Haynes, Craig Everhart, Benny Halevy and Brian Wong for all the very constructive comments and recommendations 6 IETF78 NFSv4 WG, 07/28/2010

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