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Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures Will Johnson March 27, 2015 Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 1 / 13 Interpretable groups in o-minimal theories Theorem (Ramakrishnan, Peterzil, Eleftheriou)


  1. Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures Will Johnson March 27, 2015 Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 1 / 13

  2. Interpretable groups in o-minimal theories Theorem (Ramakrishnan, Peterzil, Eleftheriou) Let G be an interpretable group in an o-minimal structure M. Then G is M-definably isomorphic to a definable group. Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 2 / 13

  3. Interpretable groups in o-minimal theories Theorem (Ramakrishnan, Peterzil, Eleftheriou) Let G be an interpretable group in an o-minimal structure M. Then G is M-definably isomorphic to a definable group. But don’t o-minimal theories eliminate imaginaries? Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 2 / 13

  4. Interpretable groups in o-minimal theories Theorem (Ramakrishnan, Peterzil, Eleftheriou) Let G be an interpretable group in an o-minimal structure M. Then G is M-definably isomorphic to a definable group. But don’t o-minimal theories eliminate imaginaries? Yes , if they expand RCF. Usually, if they expand DOAG. Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 2 / 13

  5. Interpretable groups in o-minimal theories Theorem (Ramakrishnan, Peterzil, Eleftheriou) Let G be an interpretable group in an o-minimal structure M. Then G is M-definably isomorphic to a definable group. But don’t o-minimal theories eliminate imaginaries? Yes , if they expand RCF. Usually, if they expand DOAG. No , in general. Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 2 / 13

  6. The affine line Consider ( R , <, ∼ ), where ( x , y ) ∼ ( a , b ) ⇐ ⇒ x − y = a − b Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 3 / 13

  7. The affine line Consider ( R , <, ∼ ), where ( x , y ) ∼ ( a , b ) ⇐ ⇒ x − y = a − b Remark The interpretable set R 2 / ∼ isn’t definable. Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 3 / 13

  8. The affine line Consider ( R , <, ∼ ), where ( x , y ) ∼ ( a , b ) ⇐ ⇒ x − y = a − b Remark The interpretable set R 2 / ∼ isn’t definable. The automorphism x �→ x + 1 acts trivially on R 2 / ∼ , but fixes no elements of the home sort. Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 3 / 13

  9. The affine line Consider ( R , <, ∼ ), where ( x , y ) ∼ ( a , b ) ⇐ ⇒ x − y = a − b Remark The interpretable set R 2 / ∼ isn’t definable. The automorphism x �→ x + 1 acts trivially on R 2 / ∼ , but fixes no elements of the home sort. Remark After naming any constant, R 2 / ∼ becomes definably isomorphic to the home sort. Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 3 / 13

  10. A natural question to ask Theorem (Ramakrishnan, Peterzil, Eleftheriou) Let G be an interpretable group in an o-minimal structure M. Then G is M-definably isomorphic to a definable group. Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 4 / 13

  11. A natural question to ask Theorem (Ramakrishnan, Peterzil, Eleftheriou) Let G be an interpretable group in an o-minimal structure M. Then G is M-definably isomorphic to a definable group. Is this really a property of groups? Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 4 / 13

  12. A natural question to ask Theorem (Ramakrishnan, Peterzil, Eleftheriou) Let G be an interpretable group in an o-minimal structure M. Then G is M-definably isomorphic to a definable group. Is this really a property of groups? Conjecture If X is an interpretable set in an o-minimal structure M, then there is an M-definable bijection to a definable set. Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 4 / 13

  13. A natural question to ask Theorem (Ramakrishnan, Peterzil, Eleftheriou) Let G be an interpretable group in an o-minimal structure M. Then G is M-definably isomorphic to a definable group. Is this really a property of groups? Conjecture If X is an interpretable set in an o-minimal structure M, then there is an M-definable bijection to a definable set. Unfortunately, this is false. . . Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 4 / 13

  14. My counterexample Consider M = ( R , <, ∼ ) where the relation ( x , y ) ∼ z ( x ′ , y ′ ) means. . . Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 5 / 13

  15. My counterexample Consider M = ( R , <, ∼ ) where the relation ( x , y ) ∼ z ( x ′ , y ′ ) means. . . z < { x , y , x ′ , y ′ } < z + π and cot( x − z ) − cot( y − z ) = cot( x ′ − z ) − cot( y ′ − z ) Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 5 / 13

  16. My counterexample Consider M = ( R , <, ∼ ) where the relation ( x , y ) ∼ z ( x ′ , y ′ ) means. . . z < { x , y , x ′ , y ′ } < z + π and cot( x − z ) − cot( y − z ) = cot( x ′ − z ) − cot( y ′ − z ) Morally, M is the universal cover of the real projective line. Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 5 / 13

  17. Properties of M M is o-minimal Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 6 / 13

  18. Properties of M M is o-minimal The map x �→ x + π is definable Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 6 / 13

  19. Properties of M M is o-minimal The map x �→ x + π is definable For each a ∈ R , the relation ∼ a is an equivalence relation on ( a , a + π ) 2 . Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 6 / 13

  20. Properties of M M is o-minimal The map x �→ x + π is definable For each a ∈ R , the relation ∼ a is an equivalence relation on ( a , a + π ) 2 . Aut( M ) acts transitively on M Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 6 / 13

  21. Properties of M M is o-minimal The map x �→ x + π is definable For each a ∈ R , the relation ∼ a is an equivalence relation on ( a , a + π ) 2 . Aut( M ) acts transitively on M For any a ∈ R , dcl( a ) = a + Z · π . Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 6 / 13

  22. Automorphisms of M Lemma Aut( M / dcl(0)) is isomorphic to the group A of affine transformations x �→ ax + b with a > 0 . Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 7 / 13

  23. Automorphisms of M Lemma Aut( M / dcl(0)) is isomorphic to the group A of affine transformations x �→ ax + b with a > 0 . The non-singleton orbits of Aut( M / dcl(0)) are exactly the open intervals ( n π, ( n + 1) π ) . Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 7 / 13

  24. Automorphisms of M Lemma Aut( M / dcl(0)) is isomorphic to the group A of affine transformations x �→ ax + b with a > 0 . The non-singleton orbits of Aut( M / dcl(0)) are exactly the open intervals ( n π, ( n + 1) π ) . Each orbit is A -isomorphic to the affine line via cot( − ) . Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 7 / 13

  25. Failure of EI We can identify the quotient of ∼ 0 with R , via ( x , y ) �→ cot( x ) − cot( y ) Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 8 / 13

  26. Failure of EI We can identify the quotient of ∼ 0 with R , via ( x , y ) �→ cot( x ) − cot( y ) Under this identification, an affine transformation x �→ ax + b acts by multiplication by a . Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 8 / 13

  27. Failure of EI We can identify the quotient of ∼ 0 with R , via ( x , y ) �→ cot( x ) − cot( y ) Under this identification, an affine transformation x �→ ax + b acts by multiplication by a . Any ∼ 0 -equivalence class is fixed by translations, but most aren’t fixed by scalings. Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 8 / 13

  28. Failure of EI We can identify the quotient of ∼ 0 with R , via ( x , y ) �→ cot( x ) − cot( y ) Under this identification, an affine transformation x �→ ax + b acts by multiplication by a . Any ∼ 0 -equivalence class is fixed by translations, but most aren’t fixed by scalings. No tuple from the home sort has this property. Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 8 / 13

  29. Failure of EI We can identify the quotient of ∼ 0 with R , via ( x , y ) �→ cot( x ) − cot( y ) Under this identification, an affine transformation x �→ ax + b acts by multiplication by a . Any ∼ 0 -equivalence class is fixed by translations, but most aren’t fixed by scalings. No tuple from the home sort has this property. Corollary Most ∼ 0 -equivalence classes can’t be coded by reals, so M doesn’t eliminate imaginaries. Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 8 / 13

  30. Naming parameters doesn’t help Fact We can lay two copies of M “end to end,” getting a structure M 1 ∪ M 2 . Then: Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 9 / 13

  31. Naming parameters doesn’t help Fact We can lay two copies of M “end to end,” getting a structure M 1 ∪ M 2 . Then: M 1 � M 1 ∪ M 2 � M 2 Will Johnson Interpretable sets in o-minimal structures March 27, 2015 9 / 13

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