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DISCUSSION session Chameleon ANTARES Mathematica Demokritos HOU KM3TRAY NEMO NESTOR soft soft FastTool NESSY soft ROOT based Neutrino Neutrino Neutrino/muon Neutrino/muon Neutrino Prob. muon muon generation generation muon


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  2. Chameleon ANTARES Mathematica Demokritos HOU KM3TRAY NEMO NESTOR soft soft FastTool NESSY soft ROOT based Neutrino Neutrino Neutrino/muon Neutrino/muon Neutrino Prob. muon muon generation generation muon comput. generation generation Anis generation Gen Ic3 Ascii hen file file G4 Light KM3 Light Light Light Light Sirene G4 gea generation generation generation generation generation sim Ic3 Ascii file file Bkg Bkg Bkg Bkg Bkg Sirene Electronics Electronics Electronics Electronics Electronics Ic3 Ascii file file T3 Filtering Filtering Filtering Filtering Filtering Track χ 2 Reco Reco Reco Reco Reco χ 2 Lik Aart Estimate Aart Ic3 KF Ascii file file Analysis Analysis Analysis Analysis Analysis Analysis

  3. Chameleon ANTARES Mathematica Demokritos HOU KM3TRAY NEMO NESTOR soft soft FastTool NESSY soft ROOT based Neutrino Neutrino Neutrino/muon Neutrino/muon Neutrino Prob. muon muon generation generation muon comput. generation generation Anis generation Gen Ic3 Ascii hen file file G4 Light KM3 Light Light Light Light Sirene G4 gea generation generation generation generation generation sim Ic3 Ascii file file Bkg Bkg Bkg Bkg Bkg Sirene Electronics Electronics Electronics Electronics Electronics Ic3 Ascii file file T3 Filtering Filtering Filtering Filtering Filtering Track χ 2 Reco Reco Reco Reco Reco χ 2 Lik Aart Estimate Aart Ic3 KF Ascii file file Analysis Analysis Analysis Analysis Analysis Analysis

  4. ANTARES Mathematica HOU NEMO KM3TRAY soft FastTool Chameleon NESSY soft Neutrino Neutrino Neutrino/muon Neutrino/muon Prob. muon muon generation generation comput. generation generation Anis Gen Ic3 Ascii file Nestor hen file G4 Light KM3 Light Light Light Sirene G4 gea generation generation generation generation sim Ic3 Ascii file file Bkg Bkg Bkg Bkg Sirene Electronics Electronics Electronics Electronics Ic3 Ascii file file T3 Filtering Filtering Filtering Filtering Track Reco Reco Reco Reco χ 2 Lik Aart Estimate Aart Ic3 KF Ascii file χ 2 file Analysis Analysis Analysis Analysis Analysis

  5. ANTARES Mathematica HOU NEMO KM3TRAY soft FastTool Chameleon NESSY soft Neutrino Neutrino Neutrino/muon Neutrino/muon Prob. muon muon generation generation comput. generation generation Anis Gen Ic3 Ascii file Nestor hen file G4 Light KM3 Light Light Light Sirene G4 gea generation generation generation generation sim Ic3 Ascii file file Bkg Bkg Bkg Bkg Sirene Electronics Electronics Electronics Electronics Ic3 Ascii file file T3 Filtering Filtering Filtering Filtering Track Reco Reco Reco Reco χ 2 Lik Aart Estimate Aart Ic3 KF Ascii file χ 2 file Analysis Analysis Analysis Analysis Analysis

  6. Input ic3 test file Simulation : Sirene G4 Question : output ic3 test file A module of km3tray contains Sirene, A module of km3tray contains GEANT4 (Claudio) Comparison ? Smith and Baker water absorption still to be simulated : we will keep NEMO water as reference Communication : Each code (gen, sim, rec) has to read/write ascii files (tags; format already defined and easily usable) ?? : final conclusion : when data files are provided, they have to be associated to a clear documentation in order to be decoded by the receiver. Repository for documentation Detector files : will be as simple as possible for exchange between software frameworks : (PMT_NUMBER) x y z vx vy vz : coordinates of the photocathode center and of the vector indicating the orientation of the photocathode. Reconstruction : Work has to be continued to use different reconstructions and filtering. Criterions to compare reconstructions : effective area has to be given with the corresponding sensitivity and atm muon contamination. Optimization : Fast tools useful to rapidly test simple variations. Other tools to test more deeply the main possibilities, with muons Energy estimator : in a first instance, possibility to use a degraded MCTruth ? : to avoid Optimization/comparison criterian : Point source sensitivity plot vs declination for a given cost.

  7. Smith and Baker water absorption still to be simulated : we will keep NEMO water as reference Data exchange : final conclusion : when data files are provided, they have to be associated to a clear documentation in order to be decoded by the receiver. Detector files : will be as simple as possible for exchange between software frameworks : (PMT_NUMBER) x y z vx vy vz : coordinates of the photocathode center and of the vector indicating the orientation of the photocathode. Energy estimator : in a first instance, possibility to use a degraded MCTruth ? : to avoid Optimization/comparison criterian : Point source sensitivity plot vs declination for a given cost.

  8. Depth effect not so big for point sources ? “Not intuitive” results In case of tower: bar length no so important ? PMT orientation not so important ? Work to do Better understanding of reconstruction effect & cuts : different, depending on the study. Point sources have to be the main guideline. Diffuse fluxes (and showers) are not a first priority Energy estimator has to be developed now. Distance between lines : important, but strongly constrained by deployment : 2 reference layout : 1 for each design (lines, towers) Fix the level of relevancy of WP2 outputs, Cost Model

  9. Point sources have to be the main guideline. Diffuse fluxes (and showers) are not a first priority Energy estimator has to be developed now. 2 reference layout : 1 for each design (lines, towers)

  10. Work sharing/Responsabilities KM3Tray merged with ANTARES/NEMO soft Nestor-Demokritos soft JP Ernenwein C Markou Depth studies NESTOR/ P Sapienza (2500, 3500, 5000) Demokritos Not a priority R Coniglione Scattering Effect Improvements with ? V Van Elewyck Energy Estimator NESTOR/ PMT orientation C Di Stefano Demokritos Lateral extension of floors B Baret and Erlangen ? distance between floors U Emanuele ? Sea Floor Layout 40 K/Optical Background JP Ernenwein ?

  11. Work sharing/Responsabilities Software chain responsibles: they ensure that newcomers KM3Tray merged with ANTARES/NEMO soft Nestor-Demokritos soft can use the software. JP Ernenwein C Markou After each design optimization : will have to Depth studies NESTOR/ ensure that the chain can, in some way, check P Sapienza (2500, 3500, 5000) Demokritos the other design Not a priority R Coniglione Scattering Effect 2 Experts: one in each Improvements with ? V Van Elewyck chain; Energy Estimator they NESTOR/ ensure contact PMT orientation C Di Stefano Demokritos between softwares Lateral extension of floors talking together B Baret and Erlangen ? they distance between floors ensure that a result U Emanuele ? Sea Floor Layout will be provided by end of January 40 K/Optical Background JP Ernenwein ?

  12. LAYOUTS to be used for the optimization within each design (start points) : 91 towers 154 strings 130 m 95 m ~1 km 2 Sensitivity to point sources = tool

  13. Then , comparison criterion : sensitivity=f(€) Varying the size (or other parameters) of the optimized detectors C C o o s s t t € €

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