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Beyond these walls: reaching rural/remote people with high-quality GIM care AMY HENDRICKS, FRCPC INTERNIST, ANTIGONISH, NS October 2018, CSIM Disclosures I have no commercial interests related to travel clinics or non face-to-face care.


  1. Beyond these walls: reaching rural/remote people with high-quality GIM care AMY HENDRICKS, FRCPC INTERNIST, ANTIGONISH, NS October 2018, CSIM

  2. Disclosures • I have no commercial interests related to travel clinics or non face-to-face care. • I have been remunerated to care for patients outside of my usual practice setting

  3. Hmmm. An outpatient topic, eh? David – 66 yo man with AI, 3VD, RA, COPD Echo in August – LV 65mm, Simpson’s 37%, severe AI Referred by GP (in Port Hawkesbury) to Cardiology Seen in Inverness travel clinic Sept 19 th . Feels fine. Mild edema. Note to GP Presented to Inverness two weeks later – trop up, pulm edema GP in PH calls me – please get him where he needs to be

  4. The intervention Call to MRP in Inverness to clarify situation Filled out cath referral form to send to Hx Patient awaited transfer in Inverness Safety ensured by relationships with both sites Direct knowledge of local circumstances Internist as bridge (community sites<-> tertiary site) The travel clinic made all the difference

  5. LEARNING OBJECTIVES “OVERCOMING THE TYRANNY OF Tuttle et al. Australian Journal of Rural DISTANCE” Health, 2016 • Provide high-quality, non face-to-face care for individuals (and populations) living far from the usual practice setting • Challenge the assumption of specialty care relying on patient travel, and propose less costly alternatives • Develop an efficient, rewarding model for a geographically distributed practice designed to meet the needs of patients and other care providers

  6. Altruism Curiosity Creativity Accessibility

  7. What we won’t cover • Utilization of patient-based monitoring systems with transmission of data to the provider • Electronic transmission of patient data for purposes of remote consultations between providers (e.g. teledermatology) Focus on real-time clinical encounters between doc and pt; and population care

  8. Annie’s story 68-year-old retired nurse living with her frail husband Presents with dyspnea and fatigue; LVEF 25-30% DM on insulin, CKD (creat 130) Lives 5 hours from Halifax, 2 hours from Antigonish She needs: cath, medication titration, CHIM She has: an NP in community, internist in Antigonish EST and CHIM offered locally

  9. Inverness, Nova Scotia

  10. St. Martha’s Hospital, Antigonish Parking: $2 Walk time: 5 minutes Distance: 135 km

  11. QE2, Halifax Parking: $6-10 Walk time: 15 minutes Distance: 345 km

  12. Plans for Annie Monthly med titration: NP on the phone, internist in Antigonish Weight, BP, creat, K, and physical exam by NP *would telehealth change clinical decisions? Scheduled, remunerated and documented via letter back to NP 15-minute slot, 5-minutes on the phone Internist travel to Inverness (q6 weeks) -> EST on site CHIM in community, 3 times per week

  13. Kai-Lee’s processes EMR Schedule 11:00 Paul MacDonald 11:40 Greg MacDougall 12:00 Annie Gorgan Phone NP 902-867- Phone F/U 4635 1:00 Donna Trump Billing Sheet Code To do 11:00 PM E-001 Office 2 months 15 min 11:40 GM Cx f/u No f/u 12:00 AG Phone f/u EST Inv 12:06-12:13

  14. ... And what is that treadmill doing in Inverness?

  15. What Rick did over 20-30 years Previous regular services in Northside from CBRH internists NS recruited a GIM; RB explored Inverness (watershed) Adequate MD resources in CBRH; reached out to GP leads Cheticamp Inverness Sydney

  16. Rick’s reasons Convenient and efficient to see patients in home setting: own charts available His secretary can get her work done for a day No distractions Ability to interact with referring MDs face-to-face -> hidden story dialogue, more appropriate referrals Curiosity re. local circumstances – the call from Cheticamp now occurs within a clearer context

  17. ... And then that treadmill Demo machine in Dec 1999 after regular clinics established 16 ESTs during TC with visiting Sydney tech Put on budget, then scrapped by district Hospital Foundation funded purchase Q6wks 20 ESTs for 18 years – nearly 3000 ESTs Other added services: Pacemaker checks (interrogators from 2 manufacturers donated) Community cardiac/pulmonary rehab and ortho prehab

  18. Building programs & getting equipment in the rural/remote setting Don’t fill out a form; shake a hand Hospital foundations are key Services are highly desired if facilities are at risk Staffing may be different (LPN, RT for EST’s) Your commitment may be richly rewarded Relational, not political approach e.g. echo at SMRH, cardioresp donation CHIM in Inverness – RB’s ongoing support (gratis) Keep it fun!

  19. Population Care: an example What Dr. Fanning started in the NWT

  20. Tuberculosis Rounds

  21. Reactivation/Primary TB 2-4 weeks in the hospital 6-18 months total treatment, in community There’s a lot that can happen in 18 months! How can we be rapidly responsive to the patient – and the nurse on the ground?

  22. Let’s talk to each other. All together now.

  23. TB Rounds: 60 minutes q2wks

  24. What changed with TB rounds? Local expertise: physician, nursing, lab Multiple system changes Cohesive approach to community f/u Rapid intervention for education/support The system could follow a mobile patient Unified voice in outbreaks; relationships

  25. But I’m not in the NWT! Relevance, please? How can patients benefit from you (the expert) without coming to see you? Who is (or could be) your hands and feet? Dialysis telehealth Lung cancer work-up Oncology telehealth INSPIRED (COPD home mgt) Palliative care rounds Diabetes teams Cardiac rehab Heart function clinic support

  26. Distributed practice: two pieces Travel/ outreach clinic (the specialist moves towards the patient) Non face-to-face care (the specialist and patient have clinical encounters that do not involve travel) *real-time encounters, for our purposes The tyranny of distance can cause poor access, lower frequency of follow-up, high patient costs, less guideline-adherent care, more fragmentation

  27. What is a travel/outreach clinic? From the literature: 4 models (Williams, 1981) 1. Shifted outpatient (same services, different place) 2. Replacement (specialist as first contact instead of PCP) 3. Consultation (enhanced specialist-PCP relationship, but care delivered through PCP) 4. Liaison attachment (specialist is part of a team of visiting services)

  28. Whom are we trying to reach? Urban non-disadvantaged : more data, lower benefit Urban disadvantaged Rural non-disadvantaged Rural disadvantaged (increased specialist utilization by up to 390%, with reduced hospital-based costs – Gruen, 1993-1999, surgical pts in remote Australia)

  29. Benefits with data behind them Oncology rural outreach (US) for BrCA-> more guideline- consistent care Howe et al. Cancer Causes Control 1992 Joint ortho/GP consultation-> fewer diagnostic and lab tests (Dutch) Vierhout et al. Lancet 1995 Multifaceted interventions-> lower hospitalization rate and improved clinical outcomes (psychiatry) Virtually no data for IM-specific travel clinics in 2010 Cochrane review

  30. What we don’t know IM-specific data are largely lacking; locally distinct Comparative data on overall system/patient costs Analysis of cons of travel/outreach including: -a gap in specialist services at the usual site of practice -lower efficiency due to travel time -ineffective consultation due to inadequate equipment or information systems The critical mass of patients, or critical distance, to make outreach worthwhile (?by what measure?)

  31. Rick Bedard’s Advice Reliability is key. Don’t have a threshold, even if you’re FFS Expansion of your procedural practice is a real possibility Clerical support, space, and computer access are essential Nurture your passions, and the locals will support them

  32. What is non-face to face care? (distinguishing from Telehealth) Telehealth: 1. Videoconferencing between two sites *psychiatry (>50% in Canada), nephrology, oncology 2. Store-and-forward solutions *Telederm, radiology, ophthalmology, wound care 3. Telemonitoring *chronic disease management from the home setting IM tools: a telephone, labs, +/- a colleague history is still essential -> no store-and-forward

  33. Telehealth Use in Canada

  34. Telehealth Use in Canada

  35. Telehealth Use in Canada

  36. Are you already doing outreach? As an expert to a population of patients/providers? As a diligent doc preventing travel day-to-day? By stepping out of the office into another setting?

  37. Let’s look at the evidence... On physician motivation National cross-sectional study of Australian specialists, 2017 567 specialists providing rural/remote outreach services (Sullivan et al., Human Resources for Health (2017)15:3) Self-reported reasons for participating in outreach Salaried vs. FFS Inner regional vs. Outer regional/Remote outreach Metropolitan vs. rural specialists

  38. Australian study results 19% of specialists providing outreach clinical services 42-44% of urologists/renal 30-33% of oncologists, ENT 13% of subspecialist surgeons 21-22% of internists 26% of travelling specialists were required to do outreach 40% if salaried 14% if FFS

  39. Results, cont’d. O’Sullivan et al. Human Resources for Health (2017) 15:3

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