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ALICE Erik Edelmann erik.edelmann@csc.fi NeIC / CSC NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 p. 1/ Pledges: CPU 180 Fin 160 Swe Den 140 Nor NDGF 120 % of pledge 100 80 60 40 20 0 May12 Jul12 Sep12 Nov12 Jan13


  1. ALICE Erik Edelmann erik.edelmann@csc.fi NeIC / CSC NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 1/

  2. Pledges: CPU 180 Fin 160 Swe Den 140 Nor NDGF 120 % of pledge 100 80 60 40 20 0 May12 Jul12 Sep12 Nov12 Jan13 NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 2/

  3. Pledges: CPU 180 Fin 160 Swe Den 140 Nor NDGF 120 % of pledge 100 80 60 40 20 0 May12 Jul12 Sep12 Nov12 Jan13 In 2013 the pledge increases from 12535 to 13383 kHEPSPEC06 NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 2/

  4. Pledges: Storage • Disk – 2012 Pledge: 1.325 PB (NDGF-T1) + 400 TB (SNIC-T2) – Installed: 711 TB + 400 TB – In use: 617 TB + 125 TB • Tape – 2012 Pledge: 1.761 PB – Installed: 2.4 PB (according to bdii1.ndgf.org) – In use: 216 TB NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 3/

  5. Pledges: Storage • Disk – 2012 Pledge: 1.325 PB (NDGF-T1) + 400 TB (SNIC-T2) – Installed: 711 TB + 400 TB – In use: 617 TB + 125 TB • Tape – 2012 Pledge: 1.761 PB – Installed: 2.4 PB (according to bdii1.ndgf.org) – In use: 216 TB In 2013 disk pledge increases to 1480 TB, Tape to 2276 TB NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 3/

  6. Job efficiency & storage architecture ALICE has been infamous for bad job efficiency ... NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 4/

  7. Job efficiency & storage architecture ... but it’s not that bad anymore ... NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 4/

  8. Job efficiency & storage architecture ... except for NDGF NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 4/

  9. Job efficiency & storage architecture • Distributed storage not necessarily a problem • but could it be made more efficient? – Caching? – ’hints’ of where the data is located internally? NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 4/

  10. SW installation: past, present and future • Past: VO-box installed onto disk shared with the WNs NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 5/

  11. SW installation: past, present and future • Past: VO-box installed onto disk shared with the WNs • Present: Jobs install onto local disk using a BitTorrent based system. – Shared disk not required anymore. NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 5/

  12. SW installation: past, present and future • Past: VO-box installed onto disk shared with the WNs • Present: Jobs install onto local disk using a BitTorrent based system. – Shared disk not required anymore. • Future: CVMFS NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 5/

  13. SW installation: past, present and future • Past: VO-box installed onto disk shared with the WNs • Present: Jobs install onto local disk using a BitTorrent based system. – Shared disk not required anymore. • Future: CVMFS – When? ”They’ll tell us beforehand” NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 5/

  14. One VO-box to rule them all? • With the ”shared disk” requirement gone, could we have only one VO-box that submits through ARC? NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 6/

  15. One VO-box to rule them all? • With the ”shared disk” requirement gone, could we have only one VO-box that submits through ARC? • Probably, but do we want to? NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 6/

  16. One VO-box to rule them all? • With the ”shared disk” requirement gone, could we have only one VO-box that submits through ARC? • Probably, but do we want to? – Depends on what we do with storage NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 6/

  17. One VO-box to rule them all? • With the ”shared disk” requirement gone, could we have only one VO-box that submits through ARC? • Probably, but do we want to? – Depends on what we do with storage – Pros: • Fewer VO-boxes to keep track of. • Easier to add new clusters. • Simplified accounting (Using ARC everywhere would be enough for this) NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 6/

  18. One VO-box to rule them all? • With the ”shared disk” requirement gone, could we have only one VO-box that submits through ARC? • Probably, but do we want to? – Depends on what we do with storage – Pros: • Fewer VO-boxes to keep track of. • Easier to add new clusters. • Simplified accounting (Using ARC everywhere would be enough for this) – Cons: • We would replace something that works with something untested. • ”Political” issue: On the Alimonitor map, one nordic country would have a huge cluster, the others nothing. NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 6/

  19. Long shutdown plans • For us, mostly business as usual: – Reprocessing of 2011 data, MC, user analysis ... ⇒ jobs running, needs access to data. NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 7/

  20. Long shutdown plans • For us, mostly business as usual: – Reprocessing of 2011 data, MC, user analysis ... ⇒ jobs running, needs access to data. • Sites may be asked to upgrade to SLC6 (”if OK with the sites”) NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 7/

  21. Long shutdown plans • For us, mostly business as usual: – Reprocessing of 2011 data, MC, user analysis ... ⇒ jobs running, needs access to data. • Sites may be asked to upgrade to SLC6 (”if OK with the sites”) • IPv6 – CERN aims to have IPv6 fully deployed by the end of LS1 (autumn 2014) • Publicly accessible services should be reachable on dual-stack. – ALICE would like to start testing their software with IPv6 already now • Would be nice if VO-Boxes could be dual-stacked ASAP. NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 7/

  22. Summary • We need more resources • We’ll have to think how we do storage and organizes VO-boxes • We’ll need IPv6. NeIC/NDGF All hands meeting February 2013 – p. 8/

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