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St Peters College Dunboyne CAO INFORMATION EVENING 17 TH OCT 2018 Revised Common Points Scale From 2017, all 3 rd Level Colleges in Ireland will implement a new points system to allocate places New Leaving Certificate Grade Bands


  1. St Peters College Dunboyne CAO INFORMATION EVENING 17 TH OCT 2018

  2.  Revised Common Points Scale From 2017, all 3 rd Level Colleges in Ireland will implement a new points system to allocate places

  3. New Leaving Certificate Grade Bands Percentage mark New grade 90-100 H1/O1 80-89 H2/O2 70-79 H3/O3 60-69 H4/O4 50-59 H5/O5 40-49 H6/06 30-39 H7/O7 0-29 H8/O8

  4. New CAO Points Leaving Cert 2017 Higher Level New CAO Points New CAO Points Ordinary Level Grade (%) (HL) (OL) Grade (%) H1 (90-100) 100 H2 (80-89) 88 H3 (70-79) 77 H4 (60-69) 66 H5 (50-59) 56 56 O1 (90-100) H6 (40-49) 46 46 O2 (80-89) H7 (30-39) 37 37 O3 (70-79) H8 (0-29) 0 28 O4 (60-69) 20 O5 (50-59) 12 O6 (40-49) 0 O7 (30-39) 0 O8 (0-29)

  5. What does the new scale hope to achieve?  To fairly reward students achievements  To minimise random selection on some courses.  To encourage more students to take up higher level subjects by awarding points at H7 grade

  6. Bonus Points and Matriculation  25 Bonus Points for Higher Level Mathematics continue to be awarded to students achieving H6 and above.

  7. It is the applicants responsibility to:  Research thoroughly all the courses for which he/she is making application.  Be au fait with all aspects of the application system used (CAO) for these courses, i.e., procedures, dates, fees, rules, etc.

  8. Useful Resources To assist with course research / application Publications  College Prospectuses – 2019 Entry  Student Yearbook and Career Directory 2, 2019 ed.  CAO Handbook 2019 Newspapers  The Irish Times ➢ Tuesdays Education and Living Section ➢ January Special College Supplement Series of articles - Brian Mooney  The Irish Independent ➢ Careers Articles – Katherine Donnelly

  9. Internet  Qualifax – www.qualifax.ie Irish courses database  CAO – www.cao.ie Contains links to course websites  Careersworld – www.careersworld.com  Careersportal- www.CareersPortal.ie  College websites (Addresses in CAO Handbook)  School website People  Relatives  Past pupils  Admissions/Academic staff of colleges Guidance Counsellor  Careers Classes  Individual consultation

  10. CAO – General Info.  Centralised application system for 48 Irish 3 rd level institutions, including 12 fee-paying colleges.  Every 6 th year should now have a CAO Application Pack which includes:  2019 CAO Handbook –  Application Dates and Fees Online Application Fee Payment Method Discount Rate: €30 Bank Giro/Credit/Laser Card Before 20 th January Normal Rate (20 th Jan €45 Bank Giro/Credit/Laser Card – 1 st Feb) Change of Mind No Fee ---

  11. CAO – General Info.  Since 2005, students can apply for three types of qualifications under the Nat. Qualifications Framework.  Application can be made for the three types of qualifications on 2 separate lists on a single form: Level 8 Courses Level 6 & 7 Courses Level 8=Honours Degree Level 6=Certificate Level 7=Ordinary Degree Up to 10 Course Choices Up to 10 Course Choices ◼ The courses are clearly labelled in the CAO Handbook ◼ N.B. – Care must be taken with courses marked ‘ Restricted’ . There are about 80 Restricted Courses ◼ These courses cannot be applied for after February 1 st due to extra assessments required.

  12. Please click on the sections in the image below to view the relevant information: St. Peter's College Presentation

  13. ENTRY REQUIREMENTS These must be satisfied before “points” are considered. Minimum Entry Specific Subject Requirements Requirements E.g.s E.g. UCD Engineering(UCD)  Pass 6 subjects  H4(60%) Maths  At least 2 H5 Veterinary Medicine(UCD)  4 O6/H7 in:  H5 Chemistry  Irish Commerce(UCD)  English  Another Language  O3/H6  Mathematics*  Science Subject* If all Entry Requirements are met → applicant is deemed ‘Qualified’ to apply.

  14. POINTS SYSTEM Generally in the CAO system No. of qualified applicants > No. of course places --> selection system is needed. Selection system used in Irish 3 rd Level Colleges is based on:  Points calculated from ONE sitting of the Leaving Certificate only.  Points total is calculated from SIX best subjects  Entry Requirements can be satisfied over more than one sitting of the Leaving Certificate

  15. Making an application  Applications can be made online or by paper form – use one method only. Always keep proof of sending application: online – print screen receipt, paper – obtain certificate of post.  Form is very straight forward to fill out.  www.cao.ie **VERY IMPORTANT**  Students must fill out both course lists in: Genuine Order of Preference  They should not put down courses on the basis of their predictions of next years cut off points or their own points scores.  Why? – Look at how places are allocated.

  16. Arts – UCD Arts – Maynooth 100 places to be offered 100 places to be offered Applicant Points Applicant Points Position Score Position Score 1 560 1 560 2 535 2 535 3 525 3 525 4 520 4 520 5 510 5 510 6 510 6 510 7 505 7 505 8 500 8 500 9 490 9 490 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 15 455 15 455 16 445 16 445 17 440 17 440 18 435 18 435 19 420 19 420 20 410 20 410 21 405 21 405 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 98 340 98 345 99 335 99 340  Last  Random 100 330 100 335 Selection to 101 325 101 335 place to be used 102 315 102 335 be filled 103 310 103 315 104 305 104 310 105 295 105 305 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 182 265 182 265 Course Cut Off Points = 330 Course Cut Off Points = 335*

  17. A Students Course Preferences Students 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 All Lower Points AL020 GY004 CR105 LM067 DT025 LC019 TR032 DN003 CK602 DC193 600 560 595 560 600 570 600 540 600 555 Total 595 535 595 535 595 535 595 535 595 535 590 525 590 525 590 525 590 525 590 525 = 445 580 520 580 520 Preference 580 520 580 520 580 520 ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** Cut Off ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** Points for ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** Course Courses 495 485 475 485 475 485 475 485 475 485 480 480 475 480 475 480 475 480 475 480 470 475 470 460 465 470 470 480 470 470 465 465 465 455 465 465 465 465 465 465 460 460 460 445 460 460 460 460 460 460 460 455 460 440 460 455 460 455 460 455 Disappear From 460 460 440 460 460 460 445 445 445 445 455 440 455 440 455 440 455 440 455 440 455 435 455 435 455 435 455 435 455 435 450 420 450 420 450 420 450 430 450 420 450 410 445 410 450 410 445 410 445 410 450 405 440 405 445 405 440 410 440 405 Students 450 405 435 400 435 405 435 405 435 405 445 405 430 395 430 405 430 405 430 405 435 400 430 395 430 400 430 405 430 400 ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** Preferences ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** 280 325 280 335 280 325 280 335 280 325 275 315 275 335 275 315 275 335 275 315 275 310 275 315 275 310 275 315 275 310 270 305 270 310 270 305 270 310 270 305 NO NO NO NO YES YES NO NO YES NO NO YES YES YES

  18. So – what is the best way to fill in the courses? 1 2 Dream Courses 3 4 5 Realistic Courses 6 7 8 9 Banker Courses 10

  19. Places Allocation Note:  The position of a course in a student’s preference order does not in any way affect their chance of getting a place on that course.  The exact same procedure takes place for both lists on the form, hence students may get get 2 offers in August – one from each list, may accept only one.  Students should think carefully about not accepting one of these offers, as they may not receive any further offers.  Regardless of whether or not they accept a course in round 1, they will still be offered a higher preference course in subsequent rounds if they become entitled one.

  20. After Making Application  Receive CAO number and Statement of Course Choices – check this carefully.  Some students may be called for extra assessments.  Receive Statement of Application Record – check details carefully.  Change of Mind facility becomes available – use sparingly and carefully.  Leaving Cert. Results are sent to CAO.  Places are allocated and offered by post and online.  Students accept, reject or defer offered places.  Further rounds of offers are made until all course places are filled.

  21. CAO TIMETABLE 2019 ENTRY  20 th January  Closing date for receipt of early online discount applications  1 st February  Closing date for receipt of normal applications  1st May  Closing date for receipt of late applications  Between early May and 1 st July  Change of mind facility available.  Wednesday Mid August (TBC)  Leaving Cert Results  Monday after LC Results August (TBC)  First Round CAO Offers published

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