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Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions a study of critical cardinals Joint work (in progress) with Yair Hayut Asaf Karagila The Hebrew University of Jerusalem January 27, 2017 Arctic Set Theory 3, 2017 Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary


  1. Forcing some choice Theorem (Woodin) If κ is a supercompact cardinal, λ < κ is a regular cardinal such that DC <λ holds, then there is a forcing P λ κ such that if G is a V -generic filter for P λ κ , then Every cardinal in V outside the interval ( λ, κ ) is a cardinal in V [ G ] . So 1 = λ + = κ . V [ G ] | DC λ holds in V [ G ] . 2 Taking λ = ω , we get that DC <ω is now a theorem of ZF so the following corollary ensues: Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 6 / 24

  2. Forcing some choice Theorem (Woodin) If κ is a supercompact cardinal, λ < κ is a regular cardinal such that DC <λ holds, then there is a forcing P λ κ such that if G is a V -generic filter for P λ κ , then Every cardinal in V outside the interval ( λ, κ ) is a cardinal in V [ G ] . So 1 = λ + = κ . V [ G ] | DC λ holds in V [ G ] . 2 Taking λ = ω , we get that DC <ω is now a theorem of ZF so the following corollary ensues: Corollary If κ is a supercompact cardinal, then there is a forcing extension in which DC holds. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 6 / 24

  3. Successors of supercompact cardinals We now get that supercompact cardinals can affect their successors: Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 7 / 24

  4. Successors of supercompact cardinals We now get that supercompact cardinals can affect their successors: Observation If κ is supercompact, then cf( κ + ) ≥ κ . In fact, cf( λ + ) ≥ κ for all λ ≥ κ . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 7 / 24

  5. Successors of supercompact cardinals We now get that supercompact cardinals can affect their successors: Observation If κ is supercompact, then cf( κ + ) ≥ κ . In fact, cf( λ + ) ≥ κ for all λ ≥ κ . Proof. κ , then κ = ω 1 , λ + is preserved, and DC holds. Force with P ω Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 7 / 24

  6. Successors of supercompact cardinals We now get that supercompact cardinals can affect their successors: Observation If κ is supercompact, then cf( κ + ) ≥ κ . In fact, cf( λ + ) ≥ κ for all λ ≥ κ . Proof. κ , then κ = ω 1 , λ + is preserved, and DC holds. But DC implies that no Force with P ω successor cardinal has countable cofinality. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 7 / 24

  7. Successors of supercompact cardinals We now get that supercompact cardinals can affect their successors: Observation If κ is supercompact, then cf( κ + ) ≥ κ . In fact, cf( λ + ) ≥ κ for all λ ≥ κ . Proof. κ , then κ = ω 1 , λ + is preserved, and DC holds. But DC implies that no Force with P ω successor cardinal has countable cofinality. So there is no short cofinal sequence in the forcing extension, and therefore there was no short cofinal sequence in V . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 7 / 24

  8. Successors of critical cardinals The above leads us to some questions. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 8 / 24

  9. Successors of critical cardinals The above leads us to some questions. Question Is it consistent that cf( κ + ) = κ for a supercompact cardinal κ ? Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 8 / 24

  10. Successors of critical cardinals The above leads us to some questions. Question Is it consistent that cf( κ + ) = κ for a supercompact cardinal κ ? But maybe supercompact is too strong. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 8 / 24

  11. Successors of critical cardinals The above leads us to some questions. Question Is it consistent that cf( κ + ) = κ for a supercompact cardinal κ ? But maybe supercompact is too strong. Question Is it consistent that cf( κ + ) = κ for a critical cardinal κ ? Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 8 / 24

  12. Successors of critical cardinals The above leads us to some questions. Question Is it consistent that cf( κ + ) = κ for a supercompact cardinal κ ? But maybe supercompact is too strong. Question Is it consistent that cf( κ + ) = κ for a critical cardinal κ ? But not dealing with supercompact cardinals, we may forego the requirement that cf( κ + ) ≥ κ . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 8 / 24

  13. Successors of critical cardinals The above leads us to some questions. Question Is it consistent that cf( κ + ) = κ for a supercompact cardinal κ ? But maybe supercompact is too strong. Question Is it consistent that cf( κ + ) = κ for a critical cardinal κ ? But not dealing with supercompact cardinals, we may forego the requirement that cf( κ + ) ≥ κ . Question Is it consistent that cf( κ + ) ≤ κ for a critical cardinal κ ? Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 8 / 24

  14. Successors of critical cardinals (cont.) While we do not know the answer to any of the question above, we do know the following: Theorem (Hayut–K.) Assume ZFC , and suppose that κ is measurable. Then there is a symmetric extension in which κ is a critical cardinal, and for some λ > κ , cf( λ + ) = ω . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 9 / 24

  15. Successors of critical cardinals (cont.) While we do not know the answer to any of the question above, we do know the following: Theorem (Hayut–K.) Assume ZFC , and suppose that κ is measurable. Then there is a symmetric extension in which κ is a critical cardinal, and for some λ > κ , cf( λ + ) = ω . Proof Sketch. Let κ be a measurable cardinal, j : V κ +1 → N witnessing that. Pick a regular λ > κ + . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 9 / 24

  16. Successors of critical cardinals (cont.) While we do not know the answer to any of the question above, we do know the following: Theorem (Hayut–K.) Assume ZFC , and suppose that κ is measurable. Then there is a symmetric extension in which κ is a critical cardinal, and for some λ > κ , cf( λ + ) = ω . Proof Sketch. Let κ be a measurable cardinal, j : V κ +1 → N witnessing that. Pick a regular λ > κ + . Construct a Feferman–Levy type extension collapsing λ + ω to be λ + without adding any subsets of κ , Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 9 / 24

  17. Successors of critical cardinals (cont.) While we do not know the answer to any of the question above, we do know the following: Theorem (Hayut–K.) Assume ZFC , and suppose that κ is measurable. Then there is a symmetric extension in which κ is a critical cardinal, and for some λ > κ , cf( λ + ) = ω . Proof Sketch. Let κ be a measurable cardinal, j : V κ +1 → N witnessing that. Pick a regular λ > κ + . Construct a Feferman–Levy type extension collapsing λ + ω to be λ + without adding any subsets of κ , so no elements of V κ +1 are added. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 9 / 24

  18. Successors of critical cardinals (cont.) While we do not know the answer to any of the question above, we do know the following: Theorem (Hayut–K.) Assume ZFC , and suppose that κ is measurable. Then there is a symmetric extension in which κ is a critical cardinal, and for some λ > κ , cf( λ + ) = ω . Proof Sketch. Let κ be a measurable cardinal, j : V κ +1 → N witnessing that. Pick a regular λ > κ + . Construct a Feferman–Levy type extension collapsing λ + ω to be λ + without adding any subsets of κ , so no elements of V κ +1 are added. Therefore j remains a witness that κ is critical in the symmetric extension. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 9 / 24

  19. Successors of critical cardinals (cont.) While we do not know the answer to any of the question above, we do know the following: Theorem (Hayut–K.) Assume ZFC , and suppose that κ is measurable. Then there is a symmetric extension in which κ is a critical cardinal, and for some λ > κ , cf( λ + ) = ω . Proof Sketch. Let κ be a measurable cardinal, j : V κ +1 → N witnessing that. Pick a regular λ > κ + . Construct a Feferman–Levy type extension collapsing λ + ω to be λ + without adding any subsets of κ , so no elements of V κ +1 are added. Therefore j remains a witness that κ is critical in the symmetric extension. Note that there is a problem with the proof without assuming some choice holds up to λ , since the collapse of λ + n might add subsets to κ , and possibly destroying the fact that it is a critical cardinal. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 9 / 24

  20. Successors of measurable cardinals What about measurable cardinals, rather than actual critical cardinals? Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 10 / 24

  21. Successors of measurable cardinals What about measurable cardinals, rather than actual critical cardinals? Theorem (Hayut–K.) Assume that κ is a supercompact cardinal. Then there is a symmetric extension where κ is measurable with a normal measure, and cf( κ + ) = ω . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 10 / 24

  22. Successors of measurable cardinals What about measurable cardinals, rather than actual critical cardinals? Theorem (Hayut–K.) Assume that κ is a supercompact cardinal. Then there is a symmetric extension where κ is measurable with a normal measure, and cf( κ + ) = ω . The proof is using a supercompact Radin forcing, and we can replace ω by any regular cardinal ≤ κ . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 10 / 24

  23. Extending elementary embeddings Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 11 / 24

  24. Extending elementary embeddings We want to have models of ZF + ¬ AC , Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 11 / 24

  25. Extending elementary embeddings We want to have models of ZF + ¬ AC , and one of the common ways of obtaining such universe is to start with a model of ZFC and take a symmetric extension. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 11 / 24

  26. Extending elementary embeddings We want to have models of ZF + ¬ AC , and one of the common ways of obtaining such universe is to start with a model of ZFC and take a symmetric extension. Since we are interested in critical cardinals, we would like to start with V satisfying ZFC and j : V → M an elementary embedding, Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 11 / 24

  27. Extending elementary embeddings We want to have models of ZF + ¬ AC , and one of the common ways of obtaining such universe is to start with a model of ZFC and take a symmetric extension. Since we are interested in critical cardinals, we would like to start with V satisfying ZFC and j : V → M an elementary embedding, pass to a symmetric extension W , and find some N which is a symmetric extension of M for which: Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 11 / 24

  28. Extending elementary embeddings We want to have models of ZF + ¬ AC , and one of the common ways of obtaining such universe is to start with a model of ZFC and take a symmetric extension. Since we are interested in critical cardinals, we would like to start with V satisfying ZFC and j : V → M an elementary embedding, pass to a symmetric extension W , and find some N which is a symmetric extension of M for which: We are able to extend j to an elementary embedding from W to N . 1 Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 11 / 24

  29. Extending elementary embeddings We want to have models of ZF + ¬ AC , and one of the common ways of obtaining such universe is to start with a model of ZFC and take a symmetric extension. Since we are interested in critical cardinals, we would like to start with V satisfying ZFC and j : V → M an elementary embedding, pass to a symmetric extension W , and find some N which is a symmetric extension of M for which: We are able to extend j to an elementary embedding from W to N . 1 This extension is sufficiently amenable to W , so W knows about an embedding 2 witnessing that κ is critical. (In particular, W and N share an initial segment.) Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 11 / 24

  30. Symmetric extensions If P is a forcing, and π is an automorphism of P , then π extends to P -names via this recursive definition: π ˙ x = {� πp, π ˙ y � | � p, ˙ y � ∈ ˙ x } . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 12 / 24

  31. Symmetric extensions If P is a forcing, and π is an automorphism of P , then π extends to P -names via this recursive definition: π ˙ x = {� πp, π ˙ y � | � p, ˙ y � ∈ ˙ x } . Let G be a subgroup of Aut( P ) , and let F be a normal filter of subgroups of G . x is symmetric if { π ∈ G | π ˙ ˙ x = ˙ x } ∈ F . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 12 / 24

  32. Symmetric extensions If P is a forcing, and π is an automorphism of P , then π extends to P -names via this recursive definition: π ˙ x = {� πp, π ˙ y � | � p, ˙ y � ∈ ˙ x } . Let G be a subgroup of Aut( P ) , and let F be a normal filter of subgroups of G . x is symmetric if { π ∈ G | π ˙ ˙ x = ˙ x } ∈ F . HS denotes the class of hereditarily symmetric names. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 12 / 24

  33. Symmetric extensions If P is a forcing, and π is an automorphism of P , then π extends to P -names via this recursive definition: π ˙ x = {� πp, π ˙ y � | � p, ˙ y � ∈ ˙ x } . Let G be a subgroup of Aut( P ) , and let F be a normal filter of subgroups of G . x is symmetric if { π ∈ G | π ˙ ˙ x = ˙ x } ∈ F . HS denotes the class of hereditarily symmetric names. If G is a V -generic filter for P , then HS G = { ˙ x G | ˙ x ∈ HS } is called a symmetric extension of V . It is a transitive subclass of V [ G ] which contains V and satisfies ZF . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 12 / 24

  34. Symmetric extensions If P is a forcing, and π is an automorphism of P , then π extends to P -names via this recursive definition: π ˙ x = {� πp, π ˙ y � | � p, ˙ y � ∈ ˙ x } . Let G be a subgroup of Aut( P ) , and let F be a normal filter of subgroups of G . x is symmetric if { π ∈ G | π ˙ ˙ x = ˙ x } ∈ F . HS denotes the class of hereditarily symmetric names. If G is a V -generic filter for P , then HS G = { ˙ x G | ˙ x ∈ HS } is called a symmetric extension of V . It is a transitive subclass of V [ G ] which contains V and satisfies ZF . We say that � P , G , F � is a symmetric system if G is an automorphism group of P and F is a normal filter of subgroups of G . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 12 / 24

  35. Definability of symmetric grounds Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 13 / 24

  36. Definability of symmetric grounds Theorem (K.) Assume V satisfies ZFC , and let W be a symmetric extension using the system � P , G , F � . Then V is definable in W , and the statement “I am a symmetric extension of V using the symmetric system � P , G , F � ” is a first-order statement (with parameters from V ) in the language of set theory. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 13 / 24

  37. Definability of symmetric grounds Theorem (K.) Assume V satisfies ZFC , and let W be a symmetric extension using the system � P , G , F � . Then V is definable in W , and the statement “I am a symmetric extension of V using the symmetric system � P , G , F � ” is a first-order statement (with parameters from V ) in the language of set theory. It should be pointed, however, that the same symmetric extension can be obtained by wildly different symmetric systems. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 13 / 24

  38. The setting: We start with V satisfying ZFC , κ is a fixed measurable cardinal, and j : V → M is some elementary embedding into a transitive class with critical point κ . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 14 / 24

  39. The setting: We start with V satisfying ZFC , κ is a fixed measurable cardinal, and j : V → M is some elementary embedding into a transitive class with critical point κ . We also fix some symmetric system � P , G , F � , and a V -generic filter G . We will use W to denote the symmetric extension these define. On the M side of things, we will use N to denote the symmetric extension of M obtained by j ( � P , G , F � ) . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 14 / 24

  40. You can’t always get what you want The most naive expectation would be that if j extends between V [ G ] and M [ j ( G )] , then it can be extended between the symmetric submodels. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 15 / 24

  41. You can’t always get what you want The most naive expectation would be that if j extends between V [ G ] and M [ j ( G )] , then it can be extended between the symmetric submodels. This is not always the case. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 15 / 24

  42. You can’t always get what you want The most naive expectation would be that if j extends between V [ G ] and M [ j ( G )] , then it can be extended between the symmetric submodels. This is not always the case. Example Suppose that κ is a measurable cardinal immune under adding Cohen subsets. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 15 / 24

  43. You can’t always get what you want The most naive expectation would be that if j extends between V [ G ] and M [ j ( G )] , then it can be extended between the symmetric submodels. This is not always the case. Example Suppose that κ is a measurable cardinal immune under adding Cohen subsets. Consider the symmetric system � P , S κ , F κ � , with: Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 15 / 24

  44. You can’t always get what you want The most naive expectation would be that if j extends between V [ G ] and M [ j ( G )] , then it can be extended between the symmetric submodels. This is not always the case. Example Suppose that κ is a measurable cardinal immune under adding Cohen subsets. Consider the symmetric system � P , S κ , F κ � , with: P = Add( κ, κ ) . 1 Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 15 / 24

  45. You can’t always get what you want The most naive expectation would be that if j extends between V [ G ] and M [ j ( G )] , then it can be extended between the symmetric submodels. This is not always the case. Example Suppose that κ is a measurable cardinal immune under adding Cohen subsets. Consider the symmetric system � P , S κ , F κ � , with: P = Add( κ, κ ) . 1 S κ the group of permutations of κ , with πp ( πα, β ) = p ( α, β ) for p ∈ P . 2 Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 15 / 24

  46. You can’t always get what you want The most naive expectation would be that if j extends between V [ G ] and M [ j ( G )] , then it can be extended between the symmetric submodels. This is not always the case. Example Suppose that κ is a measurable cardinal immune under adding Cohen subsets. Consider the symmetric system � P , S κ , F κ � , with: P = Add( κ, κ ) . 1 S κ the group of permutations of κ , with πp ( πα, β ) = p ( α, β ) for p ∈ P . 2 F κ the filter of subgroups generated by groups of the form 3 fix( E ) = { π ∈ S κ | κ ↾ E = id } , for E ∈ [ κ ] <κ . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 15 / 24

  47. You can’t always get what you want The most naive expectation would be that if j extends between V [ G ] and M [ j ( G )] , then it can be extended between the symmetric submodels. This is not always the case. Example Suppose that κ is a measurable cardinal immune under adding Cohen subsets. Consider the symmetric system � P , S κ , F κ � , with: P = Add( κ, κ ) . 1 S κ the group of permutations of κ , with πp ( πα, β ) = p ( α, β ) for p ∈ P . 2 F κ the filter of subgroups generated by groups of the form 3 fix( E ) = { π ∈ S κ | κ ↾ E = id } , for E ∈ [ κ ] <κ . The symmetric extension satisfies DC <κ , so if j : V κ +1 → N is any elementary embedding, N | = DC <j ( κ ) Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 15 / 24

  48. You can’t always get what you want The most naive expectation would be that if j extends between V [ G ] and M [ j ( G )] , then it can be extended between the symmetric submodels. This is not always the case. Example Suppose that κ is a measurable cardinal immune under adding Cohen subsets. Consider the symmetric system � P , S κ , F κ � , with: P = Add( κ, κ ) . 1 S κ the group of permutations of κ , with πp ( πα, β ) = p ( α, β ) for p ∈ P . 2 F κ the filter of subgroups generated by groups of the form 3 fix( E ) = { π ∈ S κ | κ ↾ E = id } , for E ∈ [ κ ] <κ . The symmetric extension satisfies DC <κ , so if j : V κ +1 → N is any elementary embedding, N | = DC <j ( κ ) and in particular N knows about a well-ordering of V κ +1 . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 15 / 24

  49. You can’t always get what you want The most naive expectation would be that if j extends between V [ G ] and M [ j ( G )] , then it can be extended between the symmetric submodels. This is not always the case. Example Suppose that κ is a measurable cardinal immune under adding Cohen subsets. Consider the symmetric system � P , S κ , F κ � , with: P = Add( κ, κ ) . 1 S κ the group of permutations of κ , with πp ( πα, β ) = p ( α, β ) for p ∈ P . 2 F κ the filter of subgroups generated by groups of the form 3 fix( E ) = { π ∈ S κ | κ ↾ E = id } , for E ∈ [ κ ] <κ . The symmetric extension satisfies DC <κ , so if j : V κ +1 → N is any elementary embedding, N | = DC <j ( κ ) and in particular N knows about a well-ordering of V κ +1 . But the symmetric extension does not know about such ordering. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 15 / 24

  50. Levy–Solovay theorem Assuming we are not interesting in choiceless results, we have the following theorem: Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 16 / 24

  51. Levy–Solovay theorem Assuming we are not interesting in choiceless results, we have the following theorem: Theorem (Levy–Solovay) Suppose that j : V → M is an elementary embedding and M is a transitive class. If κ is the critical point of j , and P ∈ V κ is a forcing and G is a V -generic filter, then j extends to an embedding from V [ G ] to M [ G ] . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 16 / 24

  52. Levy–Solovay theorem Assuming we are not interesting in choiceless results, we have the following theorem: Theorem (Levy–Solovay) Suppose that j : V → M is an elementary embedding and M is a transitive class. If κ is the critical point of j , and P ∈ V κ is a forcing and G is a V -generic filter, then j extends to an embedding from V [ G ] to M [ G ] . The same holds for symmetric extensions. As we shall see in a moment. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 16 / 24

  53. Symmetric Levy–Solovay Theorem (Hayut–K.) Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 17 / 24

  54. Symmetric Levy–Solovay Theorem (Hayut–K.) Suppose that � P , G , F � ∈ V κ . Then j extends between W and N , and it is an amenable embedding. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 17 / 24

  55. Symmetric Levy–Solovay Theorem (Hayut–K.) Suppose that � P , G , F � ∈ V κ . Then j extends between W and N , and it is an amenable embedding. Proof Sketch. The symmetric system is below the critical point, j ( P ) = P , j ( G ) = G and j ( F ) = F . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 17 / 24

  56. Symmetric Levy–Solovay Theorem (Hayut–K.) Suppose that � P , G , F � ∈ V κ . Then j extends between W and N , and it is an amenable embedding. Proof Sketch. The symmetric system is below the critical point, j ( P ) = P , j ( G ) = G and j ( F ) = F . Moreover, if π ∈ G then Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 17 / 24

  57. Symmetric Levy–Solovay Theorem (Hayut–K.) Suppose that � P , G , F � ∈ V κ . Then j extends between W and N , and it is an amenable embedding. Proof Sketch. The symmetric system is below the critical point, j ( P ) = P , j ( G ) = G and j ( F ) = F . Moreover, if π ∈ G then j ( π ˙ x ) = j ( π ) j ( ˙ x ) = πj ( ˙ x ) , Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 17 / 24

  58. Symmetric Levy–Solovay Theorem (Hayut–K.) Suppose that � P , G , F � ∈ V κ . Then j extends between W and N , and it is an amenable embedding. Proof Sketch. The symmetric system is below the critical point, j ( P ) = P , j ( G ) = G and j ( F ) = F . Moreover, if π ∈ G then j ( π ˙ x ) = j ( π ) j ( ˙ x ) = πj ( ˙ x ) , and this implies that j ” HS = j ( HS ) . In other words, the extension of j in V [ G ] maps W to N ⊆ M [ G ] . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 17 / 24

  59. Symmetric Levy–Solovay Theorem (Hayut–K.) Suppose that � P , G , F � ∈ V κ . Then j extends between W and N , and it is an amenable embedding. Proof Sketch. The symmetric system is below the critical point, j ( P ) = P , j ( G ) = G and j ( F ) = F . Moreover, if π ∈ G then j ( π ˙ x ) = j ( π ) j ( ˙ x ) = πj ( ˙ x ) , and this implies that j ” HS = j ( HS ) . In other words, the extension of j in V [ G ] maps W to N ⊆ M [ G ] . Moreover, j is amenable by the same arguments. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 17 / 24

  60. Symmetric Levy–Solovay Theorem (Hayut–K.) Suppose that � P , G , F � ∈ V κ . Then j extends between W and N , and it is an amenable embedding. Proof Sketch. The symmetric system is below the critical point, j ( P ) = P , j ( G ) = G and j ( F ) = F . Moreover, if π ∈ G then j ( π ˙ x ) = j ( π ) j ( ˙ x ) = πj ( ˙ x ) , and this implies that j ” HS = j ( HS ) . In other words, the extension of j in V [ G ] maps W to N ⊆ M [ G ] . Moreover, j is amenable by the same arguments. The Levy–Solovay theorem can be exploited to obtain an amenable extension of the embedding between the symmetric extensions even if the embedding does not extend in the full generic extension. For example, intermediate models to adding a single Cohen real. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 17 / 24

  61. Silver’s criterion Another criterion for extending embeddings is Silver’s criterion: Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 18 / 24

  62. Silver’s criterion Another criterion for extending embeddings is Silver’s criterion: Theorem (Silver) If G is a V -generic, and there is an M -generic H such that j ” G ⊆ H , then j can be extended between V [ G ] and M [ H ] . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 18 / 24

  63. Silver’s criterion Another criterion for extending embeddings is Silver’s criterion: Theorem (Silver) If G is a V -generic, and there is an M -generic H such that j ” G ⊆ H , then j can be extended between V [ G ] and M [ H ] . We would like to get something similar in the context of symmetric extensions. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 18 / 24

  64. Silver’s criterion Another criterion for extending embeddings is Silver’s criterion: Theorem (Silver) If G is a V -generic, and there is an M -generic H such that j ” G ⊆ H , then j can be extended between V [ G ] and M [ H ] . We would like to get something similar in the context of symmetric extensions. But generic filters are not the correct objects to deal with in the case of symmetric extensions. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 18 / 24

  65. Symmetrically generic filters Let � P , G , F � be a symmetric system. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 19 / 24

  66. Symmetrically generic filters Let � P , G , F � be a symmetric system. Definition We say that D ⊆ P is a symmetrically dense set , if there is some H ∈ F such that for all π ∈ H , π ” D = D . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 19 / 24

  67. Symmetrically generic filters Let � P , G , F � be a symmetric system. Definition We say that D ⊆ P is a symmetrically dense set , if there is some H ∈ F such that for all π ∈ H , π ” D = D . We say that G is a V -symmetrically generic if it meets all the symmetrically dense open sets in V . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 19 / 24

  68. Symmetrically generic filters Let � P , G , F � be a symmetric system. Definition We say that D ⊆ P is a symmetrically dense set , if there is some H ∈ F such that for all π ∈ H , π ” D = D . We say that G is a V -symmetrically generic if it meets all the symmetrically dense open sets in V . Theorem (K.) Suppose that G is a symmetrically generic filter, then HS G is a model of ZF . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 19 / 24

  69. Symmetrically generic filters Let � P , G , F � be a symmetric system. Definition We say that D ⊆ P is a symmetrically dense set , if there is some H ∈ F such that for all π ∈ H , π ” D = D . We say that G is a V -symmetrically generic if it meets all the symmetrically dense open sets in V . Theorem (K.) Suppose that G is a symmetrically generic filter, then HS G is a model of ZF . We have a forcing relation for HS : Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 19 / 24

  70. Symmetrically generic filters Let � P , G , F � be a symmetric system. Definition We say that D ⊆ P is a symmetrically dense set , if there is some H ∈ F such that for all π ∈ H , π ” D = D . We say that G is a V -symmetrically generic if it meets all the symmetrically dense open sets in V . Theorem (K.) Suppose that G is a symmetrically generic filter, then HS G is a model of ZF . We have a forcing relation for HS : p � HS ϕ , if p � ϕ HS . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 19 / 24

  71. Symmetrically generic filters Let � P , G , F � be a symmetric system. Definition We say that D ⊆ P is a symmetrically dense set , if there is some H ∈ F such that for all π ∈ H , π ” D = D . We say that G is a V -symmetrically generic if it meets all the symmetrically dense open sets in V . Theorem (K.) Suppose that G is a symmetrically generic filter, then HS G is a model of ZF . We have a forcing relation for HS : p � HS ϕ , if p � ϕ HS . Theorem (K.) The following are equivalent: Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 19 / 24

  72. Symmetrically generic filters Let � P , G , F � be a symmetric system. Definition We say that D ⊆ P is a symmetrically dense set , if there is some H ∈ F such that for all π ∈ H , π ” D = D . We say that G is a V -symmetrically generic if it meets all the symmetrically dense open sets in V . Theorem (K.) Suppose that G is a symmetrically generic filter, then HS G is a model of ZF . We have a forcing relation for HS : p � HS ϕ , if p � ϕ HS . Theorem (K.) The following are equivalent: p � HS ϕ ( ˙ x ) . 1 Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 19 / 24

  73. Symmetrically generic filters Let � P , G , F � be a symmetric system. Definition We say that D ⊆ P is a symmetrically dense set , if there is some H ∈ F such that for all π ∈ H , π ” D = D . We say that G is a V -symmetrically generic if it meets all the symmetrically dense open sets in V . Theorem (K.) Suppose that G is a symmetrically generic filter, then HS G is a model of ZF . We have a forcing relation for HS : p � HS ϕ , if p � ϕ HS . Theorem (K.) The following are equivalent: p � HS ϕ ( ˙ x ) . 1 For every symmetrically generic G such that p ∈ G , HS G | x G ) . = ϕ ( ˙ 2 Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 19 / 24

  74. Silver-like criterion for symmetric extensions Now we have a Silver-like criterion for symmetric extensions using symmetrically generic filters: Theorem (Hayut–K.) Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 20 / 24

  75. Silver-like criterion for symmetric extensions Now we have a Silver-like criterion for symmetric extensions using symmetrically generic filters: Theorem (Hayut–K.) Suppose that G is a V -symmetrically generic filter for � P , G , F � , and there is a M -symmetrically generic H for j ( � P , G , F � ) such that j ” G ⊆ H . Then j extends to an embedding between W and N . Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 20 / 24

  76. Silver-like criterion for symmetric extensions Now we have a Silver-like criterion for symmetric extensions using symmetrically generic filters: Theorem (Hayut–K.) Suppose that G is a V -symmetrically generic filter for � P , G , F � , and there is a M -symmetrically generic H for j ( � P , G , F � ) such that j ” G ⊆ H . Then j extends to an embedding between W and N . The proof is the same proof as in the ZFC case, utilizing the HS -forcing relation instead of the usual forcing relation. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 20 / 24

  77. Silver-like criterion for symmetric extensions Now we have a Silver-like criterion for symmetric extensions using symmetrically generic filters: Theorem (Hayut–K.) Suppose that G is a V -symmetrically generic filter for � P , G , F � , and there is a M -symmetrically generic H for j ( � P , G , F � ) such that j ” G ⊆ H . Then j extends to an embedding between W and N . The proof is the same proof as in the ZFC case, utilizing the HS -forcing relation instead of the usual forcing relation. The extension of the embedding, however, is not necessarily amenable to W . But we can give some conditions under which the extended embedding is in fact amenable. Asaf Karagila (HUJI) Elementary embeddings and symmetric extensions January 27, 2017 20 / 24

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