Veeva Systems Inc: SaaS' Biggest Bubble and Tech's Best Short
Price Target: $8.00 / share Ticker: VEEV
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November 2013 Veeva Systems Inc: SaaS' Biggest Bubble and Tech's Best Short Price Target: $8.00 / share Ticker: VEEV www.suhailcapital.com 1 "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if
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Horizontal’s Platform. Thus, Vertical is the new Horizontal only if the global leader in cloud based CRM is getting a cut of your sub revenue. Otherwise CAC would have been much higher as every large enterprise would not have had the comfort of knowing they were essentially relying on the leading cloud CRM’s technology and infrastructure which has been developed over the past decade.
saturation and the need for new avenues for revenue growth. Without a best in class horizontal behind it, Veeva has had a very tough time gaining any meaningful traction in new areas like ECM and MDM.
NextDocs based of Sharepoint in ECM is one. Medidata in Clinical Development. Reltio in
does your pitch in these segments work against the existing ‘focused’ vertical providers saying the same thing?
budgets, and falling asp’s due to on demand have made this a market they probably don’t care too much about right now. It’s a small vertical for a reason. If that were to change, the horizontals would look at it in a different strategic manner.
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addressable market opportunity reported in the S-1
price of $40.54)
launch report of co-lead underwriter #1 of the Veeva IPO
– $2 billion CRM + – $2 billion Enterprise Content Management (ECM) + – $1 billion Master Data Management (MDM) Customer Data= $5 billion
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Veeva) CRM/SFA pie is worth $440 million can the remaining 34% be worth $1.56 billion? That is, $250 million (40% of Ceg TTM CRM/SD revenue) + $190 million (Veeva calendar Q2 2013 CRM revenue annualized) + X= $2 billion???
here is euro conversion rate used). So, the co-lead underwriters used CEGEDIM as a comp (not shocking considering their CRM mkt share and publicly listed nature) WITHOUT bothering to verify anything. Using the whole groups revenue is COMICAL because OneKey in of itself is a $125 million revenue business, and they both comp that against Network which they TAM out separately.
co-lead underwriters cite in their initiation reports.
decline thanks to the full transition to lower cost on-demand CRM in what is already fully penetrated market as far as CRM/SFA for pharma reps.
approximately $700mln vs the approx. $2bln noted by co-lead underwriter #2. That’s a 65% downside correction in the TAM of the market in which VEEV derives >95% of revenue. Also, when you read our full report, you should reasonably conclude this error carried over into the sizing of the other two markets in which Veeva hopes to generate meaningful future revenue
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should switch to a SaaS CRM.
Multiply this by the entire global rep count of 403k and you get $700 million TAM. Now take Veeva's Q2 revenue and annualize that number and then divide by 115,000 users. What you get is a spot on match as far as total revenue per seat.
legacy on-premise CRM solution average annual price of $2,840 that they have ‘displaced’
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evidence of the appeal of the industry cloud model and warrants a premium
vertical is the new horizontal, if you have direct access to the leading horizontals entire platform. This strategy is what allowed them to achieve such capital efficiency and profitability. However, as a vertical CRM provider their core market is by definition finite, and in this case, also specifically limited by contract. This type of business model has always translated into a market discount EV/Sales multiple to the horizontal/platform players. Veeva's forward multiple is the highest in the space of any horizontal or vertical SaaS provider.
$4,500/seat “That's impossible. And even if it was remotely possible, then the horizontals would then immediately target the entire the market."
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with huge future potential.
solutions (i.e. CRM, content management, marketing automation), and focusing them specifically for the deep regulatory issues of the life sciences industry. In fact, in just one year, the company has twice rolled out entirely new functionality that entire companies were once built upon. Its Veeva Vault content management solution was quickly followed by its Veeva Network marketing and data platform-all built from scratch and deployed in the span of just 18 months.”-Gordon Ritter, Emergence Capital, Vertical is the New Horizontal
accounting for the bulk of annual R&D spend, and is described by industry professionals as the completely wrong product strategy in an already highly competitive ECM space with both horizontal and vertical players. (there are very good reasons entire companies ARE built around this functionality) Meanwhile, Veeva Network (part one) was launched in 2012 as Customer Interaction Repository(CIR), and quickly shot down by Pfizer at the same user
(its current product prospects are covered in our report). Veeva CRM Approved Email generated zero revenue in the six months ended July 31, 2013.
Intuit Founder
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current $6.1 billion dollar market capitalization validates this.
Research conflicts. The fact that it is trading where it is at is reflection of the poor state of affairs in the IPO market these days. Beyond buzz-words and sound bites that demonstrate a clear lack of understanding of the business, nobody has bothered to put this name under the microscope yet. This is simply shocking considering the coverage the name has gotten in the press, and its current market cap. “Veeva Systems is at the heart of two explosive megatrends: the cloud and life sciences. So it should be no surprise that the company had little trouble with its IPO. In today’s trading, the shares are up a sizzling 80%.” - Forbes article
exposure to both. So, it is ‘sizzling’.
Bloomberg Interviewer to Gordon Ritter
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a fraction of an inch and you’re in a different galaxy. There are just so many variables in this kind of an analysis – that’s not for us." - Curtis Jensen (Third Avenue)
$1.2 billion CRM (3x what Cegedim+Veeva derive from current 66% share) + $900 million Vault/Network (the future is <$5mln in 2.5 years) + $650 million Other Life Sciences (Back to the Future) + $945 million Other Verticals (isn’t the whole story here that it’s a ‘Industry Cloud’ company?)=PV $32. Yes, you read that right. After reaching through the clouds and into the stars, fair value today is 24% lower with 70% of future revenues from outside of CRM where 98.5% of 2012 reported revenue came from
cover in a slide. They will definitely need to suspend coverage. Hopefully for their case, you don’t read our report
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transformational nature of Veeva’s CRM solution is not accurately captured within market assessments that fail to incorporate the growth and revenue potential of solutions such as iRep and Approved Email. These relatively new features are pushing the annual subscription dollars per sales representative past the levels that Siebel and Cegedim have historically seen.”
noticeable advantage in terms of both cost savings and functionality versus its key competitors, and we believe these factors will continue to sustain the company’s growth fo/r the next several years.”
Veeva disclosure in SEC correspondance. Also, in a mobile world, we’d like to think that Irep is core SFA functionality for Veeva’s pharma sales rep
close look.
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with French publicly listed competitor Cegedim or Horizontal CRM leader and partner Salesforce.com is overwhelming.
Global Mkt Share), has a current market value of EUR 275 million, and a total enterprise value of EUR 775 million. In 2012, they generated EUR 922 million of revenue and EUR 154 million of
EV/EBITDA multiple of 5x.
disparity is extremely high.
up to 3x the implied current value of all of Cegedim, and then simply shut it down. AOL/Time Warner memories anyone?
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Cegedim's 36% life sciences SFA market share is basically being given away by the market. By our estimate, the same piece of pie in Veeva's hands costs 30x more. Now you know why Cegedim doesn't make it into any launch report comparable tables.
revenue king Salesforce.com.
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Key Metrics Veeva Salesforce.com TTM Revenue $168 million $3.47 billion TTM Subscription Revenue $106 million $3.27 billion Enterprise Value $5.8 billion $34.8 billion EV/Rev 35x 10x EV/Sub Rev 55x 11x
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assumptions as well as historical CAGR’s going forward. This is flat out wrong, but understandable as visualizing this is not easy. We too had a problem finding great evidence to support this deflationary theory until we started researching VEEV.
Market is easy to size because of pharma rep data and concentrated nature of market share amongst 3 companies. Basically, you can see how SaaS transition here has turned a once premium niche software product into a more commodity priced solution.
term we imagine that Wall Street will really have to start rethinking their financial models.
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the world still equates to 65%-80% downside in the share price.
their growth strategy goes.
people to start focusing on everything we have raised in this piece versus the puff coverage that is out there now.
pop, you can always pair it with a Salesforce.com long position or a ridiculously priced Cegedim to hedge market risk.
relative value versus Salesforce.com, Medidata or Cegedim without drawing a lot more eyeballs. We are 100% certain of that, and in the market you can very rarely make such a statement!
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We hope you will take the time to read the full 40+ page report which includes loads of details, links, references to SEC communications, underwriter reports and tons of other evidence to support our investment thesis
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